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Cards representing jealousy?

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 25 Mar 2005, and now archived in the Forum Library.

daryam  25 Mar 2005 
Does anybody know what card or combination of cards mean jealousy or envy? 


Milfoil  25 Mar 2005 
I have read that the Chariot (reversed) can mean lack of control, envy etc but personally I don't see it that way.

I prefer the 6 of coins/pentacles (reversed) - I can relate to this being jealousy or envy of someone elses good fortune.

Hope this helps :) 


lark  25 Mar 2005 
Hi daryam
The Page of Cups RX often comes up as a personality trait showing jealosy and narcissist for me.
As a person who is preoccupied with themselves and their looks and when we are around them we feel forgotten and second best.
Their feelings of insecurity about themselves are then often displayed through jealousy and selfishness. 


Rusty Neon  25 Mar 2005 
Playing free association, the first card that comes to mind for me is the 3 of Swords. 


firemaiden  25 Mar 2005 
Well, probably the 5 of swords could suggest it. Maybe the Queen of Swords (esp. reversed) could be a jealous type like Snow White's jealous queeen (mirror, mirror on the wall, who'se the fairest of them all...) 


psychic sue  25 Mar 2005 
3 of coins reversed can represent Jealousy. 


WolfSpirit  25 Mar 2005 
5 of swords - to represent the futility of the emotion. 


gollog  25 Mar 2005 
I recently read that the four of cups can represent jalousy, and being stubborn about it, not giving in. For myself (not read in books) it always feels to taht the queen of cups can be a very jalous women, don't know why. 


Rusty Neon  25 Mar 2005 
Today I noticed something while leafing through a new deck of mine, Ed Buryn's William Blake Tarot of the Creative Imagination (based on RWS card meanings). In that deck, Buryn assigns the keyword "Jealousy" to the 3 of Science [swords]. 


similia  25 Mar 2005 
I'd look at the wands Rx. Especially the 5 Wands Rx or Queen of Wands Rx. Other cards such as pentacles etc. would indicate to me what the jealousy was about.

(PS Firemaiden I love the Queen of Swords-Wicked Queen idea!) 


eastarot  26 Mar 2005 
Excellent question.
I quite like the reversed 6 of Pentacles and the reversed Queen of Swords. I'm going to keep a lookout for them in relationship readings.

Thanks!

eastarot 


Adjustment  26 Mar 2005 
The 10 of wands reversed or the page of swords reversed, the chariot reversed, 7 of swords and the magician reversed can indicate that someone is jealous about something. 


feticeira  26 Mar 2005 
Why the 10 wands Tara Deck? I`m curious about that card overall and this interpretation is a new one for me.
I think maybe the king of pentacles rx would fit for envy. 


rainwolf  26 Mar 2005 
I think the 7 of swords shows the mentality of jealousy-wanting what others have so much that the thought of taking arises. 


Fudugazi  27 Mar 2005 
7 of swords yes- but more in its ill-aspected way. Jealousy is a form of paralysis which can lead to sneakiness and base - setting a private detective to follow the loved one for instance. 7 of Swords well-aspected shows someone actually acting in an adroit and brave way (stealth and tip-toeing around a situation can be necessary sometimes, and can demand considerable adroitness and bravey).

I would say that the Devil, ill-aspected, can show jealousy; and an accompanying card might show what the jealousy is about (e.g. with the 3 of pentacles - jealousy of someone's talent and success at work); the 5 of wands ill-aspected can show how jealousy and/or envy can break out in petty sniping games.

Queen of Swords ill-aspected - certainly! 


Inana  29 Mar 2005 
My vote goes to the five of wands: competition, challenges, trying to show who is better at something, conflicts in passion. It would depict quite well someone acting in a jealous way.
On another stage, the King and Queen of Wands can be very jealous also. They are those kind of possessive people who need a lot of attention. Jealousy is a feeling I associate with fire.

About the Queen of Swords I fail to see her as a jealous person, but seem I’m alone on this. She is too logical, cold and analytical. I can see her as manipulative, arrogant, dominant, machiavellian, touchy, faultfinding, but … jealous? 


psychic sue  29 Mar 2005 
I agree with you! I don't see her as jealous or wicked, unless she is reversed. Then her attributes become negative. Right way up, I just see her as a clear thinking logical person, generally speaking, although she is sometimes tinged with sadness. Of course, other cards surrounding her would provide more insight.

Sue x 


Fudugazi  29 Mar 2005 
psychic sue wrote:
I agree with you! I don't see her as jealous or wicked, unless she is reversed. Then her attributes become negative.
I agree - that is why I wrote "ill-aspected" (I don't read reversed, though I do, of course, pick up on negative interpretations of a card).

But the 5 of wands for me is far too active and dynamic to be someone stewing aeay jealously. It just doesn't fit, and I've never had it turn up as that myself. It could show someone taking action on the basis of jealousy, but not the feeling itself, I think. Unless, again, it is 5 of wands ill-aspected, in which case, you get the dynamism turned inward, which can indicate jealousy. 


Chubby Mummy  29 Mar 2005 
Ive recently done a reading on a friend of mine who erm, well, I think she has a crush on my hubby.... The cards that came up were 4 of cups, Queen of swords reversed, 7 of cups, and 7 of swords..... I guess that means shes slightly jealous???


xxx
cm 


caridwen  29 Mar 2005 
Chubby Mummy wrote:
Ive recently done a reading on a friend of mine who erm, well, I think she has a crush on my hubby.... The cards that came up were 4 of cups, Queen of swords reversed, 7 of cups, and 7 of swords..... I guess that means shes slightly jealous???


xxx
cm


The Queen would nip that one in the bud pretty quickly - so would I!;) 


caridwen  29 Mar 2005 
Quote:
I would say that the Devil, ill-aspected, can show jealousy; and an accompanying card might show what the jealousy is about (e.g. with the 3 of pentacles - jealousy of someone's talent and success at work); the 5 of wands ill-aspected can show how jealousy and/or envy can break out in petty sniping games.


The Devil certainly - especially if it was a character trait and hurt the querent and those around them. Jealousy can be pathalogical. I think it would also depend if the jealousy was warranted or not.

I would say the Queen of Cups rather than the Queen of Swords - I can imagine the Queen of Cups as a bubbling pot of emotion that sometimes spills out over the edges - hissss! 


judylea1  29 Mar 2005 
Seems like the 3 of swords can relate to jealousy when the card relates to a love triangle situation. 


Chubby Mummy  29 Mar 2005 
Caridwen...I think so too!!


Just another quick thought on jealousy....
I was reading up on the 8's the other day...they sometimes may represent 2 homes (2 x 4=8)...therefore, 8 of swords representing worry and ill thought and jealousy over someone elses home or establishment?


xx
cm 


caridwen  29 Mar 2005 
judylea1 wrote:
Seems like the 3 of swords can relate to jealousy when the card relates to a love triangle situation.


I disagree - I think the Three in a love triangle would signify the utter hurt and betrayal it caused. Maybe the feeling you have when you find out about it - a sudden punch in the gut... 


judylea1  29 Mar 2005 
I went through a love triangle last year. Don't get me started on the jeolousy I experienced! 


caridwen  29 Mar 2005 
edited because it didn't relate to the thread:) 


caridwen  29 Mar 2005 
judylea1 wrote:
I went through a love triangle last year. Don't get me started on the jeolousy I experienced!


I don't wish to act like a sword stabbing at you but did the Three indicate hurt and the feelings it ensued or jealousy? 


judylea1  29 Mar 2005 
No, not just the pain of rejection but jealousy. I know the difference, it's a unique pain. I'm over it now though. I've just heard that 3 of swords can relate to a love triangle and I got this card in a reading shortly after that experience. 


caridwen  29 Mar 2005 
judylea1 wrote:
No, not just the pain of rejection but jealousy. I know the difference, it's a unique pain. I'm over it now though. I've just heard that 3 of swords can relate to a love triangle and I got this card in a reading shortly after that experience.


I'm sorry to hear that, dreadful experience, I'm glad you're over it. I can very much see the Three representing a love triangle - a very literal interpretation. The heart being the innocent one. 


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