Knight of Cups, and Hierophant

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 04 Apr 2005, and now archived in the Forum Library.

Marquise	04 Apr 2005
Hello... First I would like to say thanks to the advice, and info I gotten on these boards(along with other books) I think i'am starting to get the hang of using the tarot, and am actually understanding readings more! This is very exciting for me since before I would need alot of help. While I still do I at least am able to understand more clearly. Anway I usually practice the cards by reading for friends who have an intrest in the cards and believe that the cards can give wisdom. Usually however the question concerns relationships which I don't mind since as some know I used the cards for help in that area for helping myself, and it also at least is able to help me understand this subject better when used with the cards. This is probably so because well my age group is mostly teenagers. So yes I'am young(17 to be exact). I did a reading for a friend concerning a relationship, and how will things be in his current relationship with his g/f(I get ask this question alot). I used the celtic cross spread and found something intresting. On the sixth position which shows the future it showed the 5 of swords. Yet on the outcome it seemed there was an improvement showing the knight of cups. From the knight of cups I used a clarification card. It came out to the Hierophant. I once read that the knight could stand for a kind of proposal. What are your thoughts on the knight of cups?

Thirteen	04 Apr 2005
Marquise wrote: From the knight of cups I used a clarification card. It came out to the Hierophant. I once read that the knight could stand for a kind of proposal. And the Hierophant can stand for marriage--which, if the Knight/Cups is proposal, could suggest his getting out of the argument by proposing and then getting married...but I would hope these two wouldn't do anything like that given how young they are. Actually, what I believe is going to happen is this. 5/Swords, this guy's going to get in an argument with his g/friend, and there's no winning it. It'll be bad. BUT he will, in the end, be restored as the Knight of Cups--that is, the guy she loves. The Hierophant indicates that he will do this by either taking the advise of someone older and wiser (a teacher, perhaps?), or by turning the other cheek, as it were. Not fighting back, but listening, trying to understand. Also by upholding certain moral rules. I don't know if that makes sense given the situation. I'd almost guess that the arugment might start because he says or does something that she finds inapproprate (I'm not saying it *will* be inapproprate or that he'll think it's inapproprate, just that she might; her boundries might be stricter than his)--so he might have to prove himself a true knight and moral gentleman before he can win her back.

Marquise	04 Apr 2005
Thank you Thirteen for your response. Dosen't the 5 of swords however stand for deception?

Thirteen	05 Apr 2005
Marquise wrote: Thank you Thirteen for your response. Dosen't the 5 of swords however stand for deception? I think you're thinking of the 7/swords, the thief card. Lies, deception, dishonesty, sneaking around, stealing. 5/Swords is the failure/defeat card, or as I like to call it, the bully card, the fight you can't win. You may be tricked or goated into this fight, and there may be deception in that because the odds are against you. Rather like being tricked into fighting the bully after school--you think it's going to be a fair fight, but he shows up with four friends to beat you up. You can't win it. So you either have to avoid the fight--or do your best even knowing that you're going to lose.

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