Knight Of Wands

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 19 Apr 2005, and now archived in the Forum Library.

Alice23	19 Apr 2005
Hi everybody. This card has been puzzling me for a while now in regards to what sort/type/kind of person the Knight of Wands is. I have somebody in my life who this card represents and I never quite know where I am with him...would be very interesting to know other people's views on what sort of person this is!! - any ideas? Thanks! , Alice xx

Fudugazi	19 Apr 2005
Hot, passionate, sweep-you-off your feet, full of lust and bravery. Sporty, outdoorsy, adventurous, quick-tempered. Lots of inspired ideas, some of which he never realises. Might not stick around very long, on the other hand can be very persistent if he is passionate about something (a woman, a sport, a business, an idea). Loves to write. Can be violent but calms down very quickly.

Milfoil	19 Apr 2005
Adventurous and eager for new experiences or horizons, can be confrontational but doesn't hold a grudge.

Thirteen	19 Apr 2005
Helvetica hit the nail on the head in her description. I'll add only this: not likely to be punctual, can be bossy. So if you're interested in this sort of guy, don't let him boss you around. You've got to be willing to put your foot down with this guy or you'll spend your life running after him.

caridwen	19 Apr 2005
Yes but rather than bossy I would say dominating - just my take:)

Thirteen	19 Apr 2005
caridwen wrote: Yes but rather than bossy I would say dominating - just my take Split the difference. He likes to be in charge, to make the decisions and follow his whims/desires/passions. Captain of the football team. He makes the calls. Which simply means, he might not think of your wants or needs. Not that he's necessarily callous or selfish--just the sort to buy you two dozen red roses when you would much rather have daisies, take you out to an expensive, intimidating restaurant when your preference would be a quiet dinner of take-out at home. When he wants to show you he likes you, he'll go big and over the top--but he'll also forget entirely to find out what your preferences are. He thinks he knows and he's sure he's right. Just leave it in his hands....

Alice23	19 Apr 2005
Hi guys! Thanks for all your replies! The chap in question is definetely as described!....he's one of these who doesnt think rationally and is all big ideas but those usually go...as for the being in control bit I was thinking about this and I think he does...I'm always the one doing the running and chasing after him rather than him ringing me..so in that way he is in control......he also definetely doesnt think about my wants - or needs....and he definetely isnt punctual!! Very interesting to hear what you all think and you've all hit the nail on the head! Alice xx

Jewel-ry	19 Apr 2005
This guy is my son! Ever since I saw a picture of him in the Vision Quest - he has been my son. I find him so easy to describe because he is all that this guy is ... I have never found this likeness so profound as in this instance. Usually I see little bits of this person and that person in the court cards but in this instance my son encompasses the Knight Wands completely (don't tell him though!). He is impulsive, energetic, passionate, erratic, volatile. Not knowingly selfish but thinks of himself first (does that make sense?) that is he thinks on his feet and usually his needs are satisifed first but if he stops and thinks then he will think about others first e.g. always gives me his last rolo! He can be persistent but once he has conquered or won then he moves on. I cannot tell you how much my son this guy is ... If you want more, I can supply :)

hoomer	19 Apr 2005
the knight of wands to me is the Air of Fire....fire being the passioante energetic being etc...that has been mentioned already.... my question is how does the Air within this card relate to him being a dominating card?.... I can see how the air would make him rash and impulsive (I'm a Libran myself...lol)......as Air is an elemnt of beginnings...."1st breath" etc..... thanks in advance.. Why is it hard to carry on a conversation with a goat? Because they're always butting in.

Julien	19 Apr 2005
I always think of a friend I had in grad school -- he was all the things already described, but because he was so busy coming up with new ideas he often forgot his old ones! His sheer energy dominated the rooms he was in -- it was like he can expand outward. For that, the metaphor of the Air of Fire seems pretty apt. I might add that he's gone out to do some interesting human rights work in the world, so he seems to be finding a very productive way to channel all those energies. Sort of interesting to think of what happens to the Knight of Wands when he/she matures a bit more... Best, Julien

Maelin	19 Apr 2005
Ah, if he becomes the King, or even the Queen of Wands, then wonderful, but if he never does - he remains an "idea man" - the guy who keeps ripping out the flowers to see how the roots are growing! I don't know about romantically, I can tell you that as a boss, this guy is exhausting, with no patience to see through what he starts - that is someone else's problem - he is off and running, sketching out great plans on th back of a paper napkin, and then expecting someone to make it all happen. With so much energy, and so many really good ideas, he'd be a great guy to have on the team, but it's more than a little frightening when he's in charge! Tip with the knight of wands: the best ideas are his, he is sure( and often they are!), so hear him out, listen to what he says, then say it back to him so he knows you got it before you make your suggestion or case - if you don't let him finish his side, his thoughts, he shuts down, and become the knight reversed, crashing and burning, or negative and despondent.

caridwen	20 Apr 2005
Thirteen wrote: Split the difference. He likes to be in charge, to make the decisions and follow his whims/desires/passions. Captain of the football team. He makes the calls. Which simply means, he might not think of your wants or needs. Not that he's necessarily callous or selfish--just the sort to buy you two dozen red roses when you would much rather have daisies, take you out to an expensive, intimidating restaurant when your preference would be a quiet dinner of take-out at home. When he wants to show you he likes you, he'll go big and over the top--but he'll also forget entirely to find out what your preferences are. He thinks he knows and he's sure he's right. Just leave it in his hands.... lol:D We have a different idea of bossy/dominating. Or do we, I don't know...is the above bossy or dominating. For me, bossy means they tell you what to do and expect it to be done. However, you could always say no and hence argue... Dominating is someone who doesn't have to ask, or tell, they expect it to be done. Their word is law, they may be quiet, never raise their voice, can command a room of people without saying a word. Very charismatic, shall we say. Your opinion on a restaurant isn't needed or required because the dominating person knows best, they know best for you as well. In fact, they know you better than you know yourself. At their worst, this kind of person could give you a breakdown. Are we splitting the difference and saying the same thing?:P Also, if you are selfish, I don't understand the difference between being knowingly selfish or unknowlingly selfish. Surely both are selfish and have the same effect? I knew a man who hadn't seen one of his college friends for at least two years. They met up and then he went to visit some other mutual friends. The other mutual friends asked him questions like: Does she have a job yet? How is her mother doing now? etc. He didn't know the answers to any of these questions because he hadn't asked. He didn't really care. He knew the answers to her political opinions though...

Fudugazi	20 Apr 2005
caridwen wrote: Also, if you are selfish, I don't understand the difference between being knowingly selfish or unknowlingly selfish. Surely both are selfish and have the same effect? There's a vast difference: one knows what the other wants, but doesn't care; the other doesn't know and is too busy to find out. The second, when this is pointed out to him, will often make huge amends ;) (it will have to be pointed out to him more than once, however). The first -well, he doesn't care, does he?

caridwen	20 Apr 2005
Helvetica wrote: There's a vast difference: one knows what the other wants, but doesn't care; the other doesn't know and is too busy to find out. The second, when this is pointed out to him, will often make huge amends ;) (it will have to be pointed out to him more than once, however). The first -well, he doesn't care, does he? I meant that the effect is the same. Selfish is selfish. My flatmate was always sighing and saying: ooh I'm so selfish. However, she never changed. lol:D

DarkAngel_Claudia	21 Apr 2005
Alice23 wrote: Hi everybody. This card has been puzzling me for a while now in regards to what sort/type/kind of person the Knight of Wands is. I have somebody in my life who this card represents and I never quite know where I am with him...would be very interesting to know other people's views on what sort of person this is!! - any ideas? Thanks! , Alice xx I usually refer to the knight of wands as Aries in zodiac he is passionate, creative , very active and loyal but annoyingly selfish - that is soo y dad

feticeira	21 Apr 2005
Well I was just recently victim of the knight of wands´ selfishness and unreliability, and the thing that strikes me the most is that he has truly no idea he hurt me. He comes and goes, oblivious to everything and everyone aside from his great ideas, also oblivious to the consequences of such ideas once that they´re put to practice. So I guess, be careful with this one unless you honestly wish to live expecting the unexpected. *edited for spelling

Rhiannon SW	21 Apr 2005
I just did my daughters cards tonight and in the celtic cross she had the crossing card as the knight of wands. It's her my daughter is exactly what you described and she's an Aries too. So what it was saying is she's causing her on problems or bringing alot of them on herself. Thats so right on and I didn't really see it til I read this post. The rest of the reading I got fine but that Knight I just didn't see it or couldn't see it to actually come out and tell her cause she was quite distraught. I'll speak to her later today I guess. Blessings RSW

Alice23	22 Apr 2005
This has been really interesting to see what everyone makes of this person!And Feticeira you've really hit the nail on the head here....the same has happened to me with the wands knight, being hurt and not being treated well by him after lots of big promises and ideas, - and he hasnt a clue/doesnt think anything is/was wrong, because he isnt a rational thinker and doesnt think about my needs as well. Expecting the unexpected is definetely something with this guy, which in this experience hasnt been a good thing.

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