Four of cups
Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 11 May 2005, and now archived in the Forum Library.
| Robin |
11 May 2005 |
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I did a relationship spread for someone and I have a little question on the four of cups. the four of cups fell in the postion of where does the questioner's love interest want the relationship to go. I also got the Lovers card for how he sees her, but I could not explain to her where he wants the relationship to go with the four of cups. any suggestions about this card in this position?
Thanks so much,
Robin
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| caridwen |
11 May 2005 |
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I would say that he needs to be made aware of how she sees the relationship. She needs to make it clear where she wants it to go because it doesn't look as though he can see what is being offered or what is on offer.
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| Robin |
11 May 2005 |
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so in response to how he sees the relationship, I should tell her it would mean he wants her to show feelings more? ok. I know she's indeed been hiding her feelings.
thanks caridwen
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| full deck |
11 May 2005 |
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I was looking at this card a year a half ago.
The way I was interpreting it then was that the number four is associated with order, measurement (the Emperor), yet the suit "Cups" is of the emotive, intuitive nature that we have, thus I found this to be a symbol of emotional restriction. This could have both useful and problematic effects, for example, the need for one to order and control their emotions under certain circumstances OR a person who is an emotional prisoner (of sorts) to a situation, resulting in conflict.
People in this situation could be like the spouse that feels trapped within a marriage or relationship (for just one example) or a person that has to manage their emotions about a situation or person in a controled, rational manner. It struck me as being a bit like a square peg in a round hole.
Thirteen had a nice way of looking at this one as well.
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| caridwen |
11 May 2005 |
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so in response to how he sees the relationship, I should tell her it would mean he wants her to show feelings more? ok. I know she's indeed been hiding her feelings.
thanks caridwen
How he sees the relationship is a different question to Where he wants the relationship to go.
In answer to How he sees the relationship, I would say that he is not aware of how much love is being offered to him, the cup is held out to him, much like the cup from the Ace. He is too absorbed however, to see it or realise what it is he has. It could also mean that he needs a little time out to himself, to absorb his own feelings.
If she has been hiding her feelings, again I would say that he is not aware of how much she does indeed like him.:)
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| Robin |
11 May 2005 |
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I'm sorry i confused my postion meaning. i meant to say where he wants relationship to go. sorry about that. hmm. i'm going through a brain fart. so would this be a postive response to where he wants the relationship to go? he wants her to open up.
robin
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| caridwen |
11 May 2005 |
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I'm sorry i confused my postion meaning. i meant to say where he wants relationship to go. sorry about that.
No need to apologise - I get the feeling of a kind of crossroads thing going on within that relationship, I don't know why. I see the four here as four roads or choices and he is unsure of which one to take, the Lovers can also refer to a choice. It depends on the other cards.
Seeing her as The Lovers, however, is usually a pretty good indictor within a relationship:)
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| Robin |
11 May 2005 |
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Thanks so much Caridwen and Full Deck
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| Ace |
11 May 2005 |
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You are doing this reading for a girl and the 4 of cups is in the position of where HE (her boyfriend) wants the relationship to go. Correct? if that is so, I would say the 4 of Cups is saying he is waiting for bells and whistles, for some magic sign that she is the ONE. Or conversly, that he has gotten bored. It isn't as fun as it used to be, when does it get fun again?
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| Robin |
11 May 2005 |
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yes you are correct about what I am asking. the relationship is not yet full boyfriend or girlfriend....yet. but it has just actually reached a point where it is starting to progress in that direction, i.e, great phone conversations, dinners, but she's shy cause she's been with him previously (8 years ago) and is curious if he actually wants this to lead to anything.
robin
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| Ace |
12 May 2005 |
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I didn't see this until now. But if they were together before, maybe 4 of cups is saying: they (either he or she) is afraid it is MORE of the same as before. History will repeat itself, unless they learn the lessons of the past. Urge your friend (you can't MAKE her boyfriend do something unless he wants to) to review what went on before and try to see how she is different now, or what must change to avoid a crash again.
Ace
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| autumn star |
13 May 2005 |
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I agree with Ace. In a reading recently, I drew the 4 of cups card .. after thinking about it for a while, the card came to represent for me a situation of boredom maybe apathy, waiting for something to come along ... like the 4th cup out of the sky.
autumn star
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| gareth. |
13 May 2005 |
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But already decided its about Choices. G.
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