Random Throwing Methods
Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 09 May 2005, and now archived in the Forum Library.
| Little Baron |
09 May 2005 |
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I was in a shopping centre yesterday and amongst many stalls a man was reading the cards at his desk; I have seen him there before and he uses the Haindl, it seems for all readings, and is never short of people to read for.
I walked past a couple of times and the cards were just in a messy heap on the table. There was no structure and spread, they were just thrown, it seemed, as they fell. The querant held the deck and she was passing them to him, but I didn't stand around long enough to see how he placed them amongst the others. It really looked quite interesting, rather than having a set pattern to lay the cards in. Does anyone know about of use a method like this as I would like to hear more about it?
I was wondering if maybe it would be possible to use a certain amount of cards like this and work with them by number, rather than laying them in to a certain possition. For example, the first card thrown down would link to the number one in numerology, the second to two and so on, seeing which ones edge towards each other and stand away from the others. Maybe the querant could place them on the table where she or he wanted them to be.
Any thoughts or ideas about this?
LB
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| Valkyriesong |
09 May 2005 |
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He could have been channeling or working with spirit as he was using them in such a way that his card placement wasn't keeping up with what spirit was saying or he really only needed certain ones.
When i Start a reading it STARTS with the celtic cross spread .... then as i go .. i tend to lay out cards here, there and everywhere pending on if the cards are feeling to me like they are "done talking" or not. I can't explain it but sometimes the feeling just keeps going to keep reading and the feeling i get to stop is when everything all he feelings i get etc ... just goes away.
Some peopel I can read for like a long long time
other folks .. five minutes.
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| Phoenix Rising |
09 May 2005 |
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I have seen this method. A woman who reads playing cards actually. she just shuffles, and the cards fall out randomly, and she reads them as they fall, and adds a story to each of the cards.
although I can't remember much of the reading, only remembered it when I read this thread. but i haven't seen it done anywhere else.
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| Kissa |
09 May 2005 |
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oh! how interesting!
i don't do "random throwing method" but i am a pro at "random buying method" if you see what i mean... no shape, no structure, just as it comes...
kissa
ps: tell us more about that reader, go back at the shopping centre and spy him for us :D you are on an accredited mission, LittleB. (musical background: original soundtrack of "24" 'cause Mission Impossible is has been.
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| Little Baron |
09 May 2005 |
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It did look very freeing - the cards seemed to be more interactive, rather than locked in there positions. I really want to try and make up my own method like this.
Unfortunately the centre is not that near to me, but next time, I will take up your mission, Kissa. If he has no clients, I will go and ask him about it.
It's a long shot, but I wondered even if he was amongst us here! I am always surprised to meet someone who reads tarot that hasn't stumled upon and learnt through this site.
LB
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| Emeraldgirl |
10 May 2005 |
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i don't do "random throwing method" but i am a pro at "random buying method" if you see what i mean... no shape, no structure, just as it comes...
I do that too :D . I think the random throwing sounds really fun and liberating. I often don't stick to a set spread adding extra cards or changing card placement meanings to suit the question (before dealing out the cards of course).
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| jmd |
10 May 2005 |
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I at times also use such a method, where cards are literally flipped onto the table, forming their own pattern, with some face down and some face up (I also briefly mentioned this in a couple of other threads, such as in Unusual ways of dealing the cards).
In such a spread, the first thing I usually allow myself to note are not the cards themselves, but, virtually putting the individual cards out of focus a little, the pattern or flow that arises with the overall cards (both those face down and face up make up this pattern).
Then, what tends to also emerge is the central or main tension(s) within the flow, paying particular attention to the cards in that area.
Cards are then also looked at in terms of how they appear to relate to one another (there are usually quite important relations that emerge).
Like for any such throws, the actual number of cards used varies from instance to instance, and one senses when the number of cards flipped is appropriate.
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| Little Baron |
10 May 2005 |
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Thanks everyone. I did a reading yesterday and like you said, Jmd, there was a time when the cards stopped coming, after six had been thrown. Interestingly, my first interpretation was in their layout - they had paired into three groups, one group further away than the other two - I saw this to be a little time before results would come into play, and patience by the querant, was needed. It was also interesting that cards would tall over one another - the sword of a cavalier cut right into the centre of the 8 deniers, which I considered to be important and a break down of structure.
This is quite different to the method I saw in the shopping centre. The guys cards were random but were still all straight and standing vertically. He seemed to be laying them one over the other.
LB
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