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Worst card

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 19 Jun 2005, and now archived in the Forum Library.

Sushi  19 Jun 2005 
What do you consider the worst card in the deck to be? What card makes you cringe when it comes up? 


Lady Tararith  19 Jun 2005 
I think that the worst card in my opinion is ''The Tower''. I just don't like that card as it always depicts destruction.

Lady Tararith 


bladeraven  19 Jun 2005 
three of swords is the worse for me......It makes me fill with fear that I'm losing someone 


Grizabella  19 Jun 2005 
The Death card. I know, I know. Everyone says it doesn't mean actual death, but I still don't like it.

I don't mind the Tower at all. 


jumptothemoonyea  19 Jun 2005 
Death - irreversible end. Hard to accept powerlessness 


Marina  19 Jun 2005 
The Tower, depending on the situation, scares me a bit. But i don't like the Hanged Man. The situation goes nowhere, nothing happens...you know it's hopeless.

Yuko 


rennfahrer  19 Jun 2005 
miss_yuko wrote:
The Tower, depending on the situation, scares me a bit. But i don't like the Hanged Man. The situation goes nowhere, nothing happens...you know it's hopeless.

Yuko


That seems so contradictory to the meaning given in the book I have. It portrays the hanged man as a very good thing. IIRC the end of some old ways and the start of something new and great. What meaning do you associate it with? 


Marina  19 Jun 2005 
brh986 wrote:
That seems so contradictory to the meaning given in the book I have. It portrays the hanged man as a very good thing. IIRC the end of some old ways and the start of something new and great. What meaning do you associate it with?


Really? Which book do you have?

There is no bad card - the Hanged Man, in a spiritual question, is a good card. But overall, it means stagnation, inertia...sometimes, illusion (ie. when the person insists too much in a situation that isn't right). The man has his legs tied and cannot touch the ground...a hopeless situation. All he can do is to trust a greater power (the reason why this is a good spiritual card). And i disagree with you - it does not indicate the start of a something good and new. The Hanged Man starts the what we call 'the path of suffering', which is the path the fool goes through in order to learn from his mistakes and evolve.

I've never seen anyone potraying this as such a good card. It's not the end of the world, but definitely not the best of the pack.

~Yuko 


autumn star  19 Jun 2005 
I don't have a 'worst' card - but to be honest, I am not too fond of the 10 of Swords - I really don't mind the Tower or Death - they can be good things in some situations. There are no bad cards - I am also a bit wary of the Hanged Man - I am also not really fond of the Devil - just the imagery on some of the decks can sometimes bring negative connotations to my mind. I find the 7 of Cups card hard to deal with sometimes - I don't like getting this card in my own readings - it is not a bad card, but it brings to mind confusion. 


Cobra333  19 Jun 2005 
For me, it's got to be The Tower. You think you're building your foundation on something solid, and low-and-behold, you're wrong. Whenever I get this card in a reading, I prepare for a storm. There's a reason why Oya (the Santerian goddess of tornadoes and destruction) is attributed to this card. But alas, we must remember that sometimes it takes a complete demolition in order to make room for a new building.

Cobra333 


sarahava  19 Jun 2005 
Three of swords is also on my worst list. So is the 8 of cups. I know the 8 of cups is about moving on, but I don't like the thought of leaving something behind in order to do that, and it's always how that card has appeared to me. I also don't care much for the magician. Sometimes it's not so bad, other times I just feel like he's a sweet-talking salesman, possibly representing someone who's trying to pull the wool over your eyes.

I guess I don't necessarily think these are the "worst" cards, but they are the ones that sometimes make me uneasy, or make me cringe and say "Oh, great!" in a very sarcastic tone. 


feticeira  20 Jun 2005 
Itīs strange, I actually get happy when Death or Tower appear, Iīve always thought both cards come up because of great necessity to clean up whatever it is, pick yourself up and start over. I feel more confident when I see these cards, for example when Iīm doing a reading about something that bothers me, a bad situation or such, if these cards come up itīs instant hope for me. They tell me my problem will go away, I just need some courage. Death is my second favorite card, after Strength.
Now on the cards I really donīt like: Empress (donīt know why, everyone loves her, I think Iīm missing a lot of understanding of this card), 7 of cups (all those vain illusions! they swallow up the man, heīs a shadow).
Iīm also not too keen on Hanged Man, Magician, 5 of swords, 2 of swords, 8 of cups. 


rennfahrer  20 Jun 2005 
miss_yuko wrote:
Really? Which book do you have?

There is no bad card - the Hanged Man, in a spiritual question, is a good card. But overall, it means stagnation, inertia...sometimes, illusion (ie. when the person insists too much in a situation that isn't right). The man has his legs tied and cannot touch the ground...a hopeless situation. All he can do is to trust a greater power (the reason why this is a good spiritual card). And i disagree with you - it does not indicate the start of a something good and new. The Hanged Man starts the what we call 'the path of suffering', which is the path the fool goes through in order to learn from his mistakes and evolve.

I've never seen anyone potraying this as such a good card. It's not the end of the world, but definitely not the best of the pack.

~Yuko


The book I have came with my aquarian deck, it's called "Psychic Tarot" By Craigh Jungjulas.

The meaning it gives for the hanged man is as follows:

A major change, transition, radjustment to new ideas and condtions-ultimately for the good. Intuition, psychic awarenewss, and spiritual wisdom as the outcome of releasing past patterns and continuing one's growth. Denotes inner peace, inspiration, faith, and noble sacrifices.

That sounds all very good to me. 


Amandajane  20 Jun 2005 
For me personally I always get a chill down my back when The Tower comes up. 


Free Flight  20 Jun 2005 
10 swords and Knight/King Swords (reversed or not) they both remind/represent me of someone who gives me the heebyjeebies.

Tower and Death dont worry me too much...all about positive change 


sagitarian  20 Jun 2005 
After reading some of the other posts, and thinking about it, I don't like 6 of swords, it always seems depressing to me. Like, there was no other option but to "flee" and your held in this (what feels like) an endless position of trying to hold on to hope, yet you can only go so far, not truly beliving that you can "make it", but trying for all that it's worth regardless.

Another card I feel is a "bad" card is (I think) 5 of pentacles...in the rider waite/universal waite deck, there's one man with a cast on his leg (?), the other with bandages around his head, and their limping together (or is it one man, sorry, my kids ruined this deck, so I had to throw it out, so I'm having a hard time truly remembering what this card looks like). He/they are usually outside in what looks like the middle of winter in front of a stained glass window, wounded and limping. This card just indicates pure raw ill physical health, and bad mental outlooks on life. Another very depressing, "nothing good can come out of this" type of card. Just illness and suffering on the physical plane, which effects our emotional and spiritual self. 


AngelDancer  20 Jun 2005 
3 of swords and 5 of pentacles are both quite depressing on their own. i used to feel that 10 of swords was the worst but i don't any more. it comes up quite a lot when i read for myself and i'm still alive :o).

xxAD 


Fudugazi  20 Jun 2005 
There is no bad card: only bad reactions to a card. All cards, in and of themselves, are neutral. But our fears and desires project "worst" and "best".

Let's take one example: if you live inside a Tower and lock all doors and bar all windows, you will in all likelihood be pained by it being struck by lightning: but you will also be freed. Are you going to cling to your walls, or enjoy the fresh air and learn to live as a free person? If someone has hidden your treasure there, and you cannot reach it - the crack opened will allow you to do so. Will you bury it, put it to work or share it?

All cards carry spiritual messages in them - messages that have been told for centuries, to help us live and die well. 


Al Si'ra  20 Jun 2005 
Hmm...I just don't like the 7 of cups-Hanged Man-7 of pents-4 of cups,8 of cups (all,in some specific situations though)...I just don't like the "confusion&stillness" thus the cards indicating a period of confusion irritates me a bit.. 


Amandajane  20 Jun 2005 
I think personally why I dislike The Tower is I am not one that likes change even though I know it is often necessary.I do not to come out of my comfort zone but I am slowly doing just that. 


spiral  20 Jun 2005 
Lady Tararith wrote:
I think that the worst card in my opinion is ''The Tower''. I just don't like that card as it always depicts destruction.

I love that card!... Guess it's all in the way that you look at it...
Helvetica wrote:
There is no bad card: only bad reactions to a card.

On the money! Personally I don't get card fear for any particular card. I suppose the high swords generally indicate some kind of mental anguish. But the moon is the 'darkest' card, imho. All poison and deception, fear and loathing. But, in it's own way, the signal card for the ascent into light. 


AngelDancer  20 Jun 2005 
You are right, of course... All change is good :o) You don't happen to have the Tarot Affirmations Deck? It's on my wish list, since I think it would help me integrate the positive messages that aren't always apparent.

xxAD 


AngelDancer  20 Jun 2005 
i fell that the moon card is quite positive a lot of the times it comes up, as in bunning's description (however, she also mentions fear, illusions and bewilderment):

stimulating the imagination
having vivid dreams or visions
opening to fantasy
plumbing the unconscious

that's definitely the energy i would harness for myself if it came up as my daily meditation card, which it hasn't so far... keep getting the knight of pents a lot... hmmm...

xxAD 


Fudugazi  20 Jun 2005 
spiral wrote:
IBut the moon is the 'darkest' card, imho. All poison and deception, fear and loathing. But, in it's own way, the signal card for the ascent into light.
Well you see how reaction to cards can differ? To me, the Moon is the card of my creative imagination going to its source. Sometimes, depending on the question, it can mean confusion of course! But magic, too...

So in and of itself the Moon is neutral: but we project what we want on it (and it is a very good example of what I am talking about, Spiral - because the Moon is the card of projections par excellence).

Angel Dancer - no I don't have that deck. I just try and study cards in as rounded way as possible - taking in positive and negative projections, and everything in between - and hope that when I read I get the right message. 


spiral  20 Jun 2005 
Helvetica wrote:
So in and of itself the Moon is neutral

Indeed, hence why I use the word 'darkest' rather than 'worst'. It will also be heavily influenced by which deck you are reading. In Thoth the Moon is a very dark card.

But like I say, I don't think in terms of 'worst cards'. 


breathlessmahoney  20 Jun 2005 
The card that I seem to dread seeing in a reading the most is the 10 of swords and I think that it's mostly because the image of someone with 10 swords in their back unnerves me. After that, the 4 and 5 of cups, the 10 of wands because I feel bad for the person the 2 and 3 of swords. Mostly because the show unhappiness for the person either that they were, are or will be. 


Fudugazi  20 Jun 2005 
spiral wrote:
Indeed, hence why I use the word 'darkest' rather than 'worst'. It will also be heavily influenced by which deck you are reading. In Thoth the Moon is a very dark card.
Well isn't darkest another way of saying "worst"? Again, I believe you are projecting (as we all do) something onto the card - a dark experience, where someone else might find great inspiration in that darkness, or beauty. Even in the Thoth. For experiencing Anubis is a form of inspiration too. 


spiral  20 Jun 2005 
Helvetica wrote:
Well isn't darkest another way of saying "worst"?

No...
Helvetica wrote:
where someone else might find great inspiration in that darkness, or beauty

You answered your own question... 


Fudugazi  20 Jun 2005 
Touché! Definitions shmefinitions - I see "dark" as another word for "worst" but I'll not take you on with this :) 


Ross G Caldwell  20 Jun 2005 
I would say that the worst card is the card you wanted least to see in a reading. 


PlatinumDove  20 Jun 2005 
Lady Tararith wrote:
I think that the worst card in my opinion is ''The Tower''. I just don't like that card as it always depicts destruction.

Lady Tararith


Without destruction, evolution cannot come about. ;)

I hated seeing the Tower come up in relationship readings, that always meant that I/the querant would have to go through a large emotional upheaval before the goodness can come, but its always better to destroy the bad and faulty foundation and end up with a stronger one, than to live with the bad and faulty foundation and watch it come down on its own. 


obsidian_queen  20 Jun 2005 
I don't like the Devil...it's like negative energy that takes forever to shake, and I hate when it comes up for a relationship.
The 10 of swords I don't like very much ..because from experience it tells me when the sh** is going to hit the fan..and I get splattered.
I don't like the 5 of swords in a reading..tells me when I'm about to get screwed...or lets me know the ugly truth about how I'M behaving..usually it means an argument or fight that leaves me feeling terrible..even if I was the one who was right.
I'm never happy to see the 3 of swords either. Stress, stress and heartache.
The Moon annoys me, because it always lets me know that I should prepare to be pretty upset, pretty confused and very emotional.
Strangely enough, Death and the Tower don't bother me very much. I always just see it as a big change coming...just before I got pregnant the Death card came up for me a lot. The Tower also makes me feel like I'll understand whatever's been going on all at once. 


Marina  20 Jun 2005 
obsidian_queen wrote:
I don't like the Devil...it's like negative energy that takes forever to shake, and I hate when it comes up for a relationship.


I'm not fond of the Devil, but sometimes i like it in relationship spreads. Means powerful sexual energy...which isn't always bad, is it?
But yeah, it's a fire that burns easily and many times without control. Better be careful!

~Yuko 


Marina  20 Jun 2005 
brh986 wrote:
The book I have came with my aquarian deck, it's called "Psychic Tarot" By Craigh Jungjulas.

The meaning it gives for the hanged man is as follows:

A major change, transition, radjustment to new ideas and condtions-ultimately for the good. Intuition, psychic awarenewss, and spiritual wisdom as the outcome of releasing past patterns and continuing one's growth. Denotes inner peace, inspiration, faith, and noble sacrifices.

That sounds all very good to me.


Oh, but you see, this meaning is mostly about the spiritual 'side' of the card - which is good. Intuition, psychic awarenewss, and spiritual wisdom...yes, that's right.
However, you must always watch what you are talking about in a reading. Is it a relationship? Then if the Hanged Man comes up, the relationship is probably stagnated or has no future/won't develop. Is it about the spiritual path you've just chosen? Oh, then it probably means that it's a good path to you, one which you'll follow with intuition and wisdom, and one that will teach you a lot of things. That's just an example, of course.

I'm sorry to disagree with you book about the major change - the Hanged Man is a slow card. It goes nowhere. The 'change' cards in the Major Arcana are usually the Wheel of Fortune, the Death and the Tower. The Hanged Man is...well, hanged. He doesn't move, he doesn't touch the ground - he surrenders to a greater force because he's powerless in his sacrifice. Although his spiritual awareness is growing, in real life all stays the same. No big change comes with the Hanged Man, except in an inner way - he sees and notices new things...he learns. But he stands still.
I don't associate the Hanged Man with inspiration also...he shows no art to me, he creates nothing. The Magician talks to me more about inspiration, you see, because he starts, he plans, he creates...he works with his hands. The Hanged Man many times has them tied on his back (in classic decks)!

Of course, that's my view. If i were you, i'd buy different books about Tarot, to get in touch with different visions. I'm not saying yours is wrong, but for me it sees the Hanged Man in a too optimistic way...there is no *bad* card in the deck, but i really wouldn't like to get if i asked about the future of a new project :joke:
If you cannot buy a book, Thirteen's Tarot Basic is very good! Read it here: http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/learn/meanings/

Good luck! ;)

~Yuko 


obsidian_queen  20 Jun 2005 
I know Yuko, you're right about the sexual energy...but I guess again the cards mean different things for different ppl. That same sexual energy came up to describe a relationship I had with this guy that I really liked....I wanted to be with him on a deeper level, but knew he had a strong physical attraction to me, so that's what I used to draw him in. Things met a dead end...because he really just got hooked on the sex, and just stayed caught up in that...and I felt cheap at the end so...you know. I've found since then that whenever this particular message needs to be conveyed to me in a reading...there's the good old Devil to the rescue. 


Fudugazi  20 Jun 2005 
miss_yuko wrote:
The Hanged Man is...well, hanged. He doesn't move, he doesn't touch the ground - he surrenders to a greater force because he's powerless in his sacrifice. Although his spiritual awareness is growing, in real life all stays the same. No big change comes with the Hanged Man, except in an inner way - he sees and notices new things...he learns. But he stands still.
I don't associate the Hanged Man with inspiration also...he shows no art to me, he creates nothing. The Magician talks to me more about inspiration, you see, because he starts, he plans, he creates...he works with his hands. The Hanged Man many times has them tied on his back (in classic decks)!
The Hanged Man is hanging upside down like a foetus. He is gestating. It is what comes after that is interesting - Death. If the Hanged Man doesn't evolve he shrivels, like a foetus that doesn't grow and isn't born. For an artist (I am a writer) he is an essential step in the creative process - that is where so much is preparing itself - while we think we are stuck, all the time the baby is growing inside us. But then we must allow Death to occur - the death of this suspended state, that will precipitate change and work and integration (Temperance) and deep exploration (the Devil) until the whole thing blows up and what is locked inside comes out (the Tower)...and then on until the World. 


Ace  20 Jun 2005 
the Ascestral Path deck shows the Hanged Man (or Hanged One) as she calls it as exactly that: a foetus. I never realized until now why, I just knew I loved that card and tried to work with that deck because of that.
Death is transitions, which is what the Hanged One does, moves from one reality to another. Even if s/he comes back to this place, they are not the same nor to they see the world as the same anymore.

The Hanged Man is also looking at the world from a new prospective: seeing what we can't see because we aren't willing to look at things from a new angle. He is in many decks "enlightened" by that view.
Ace 


Mother Goose  20 Jun 2005 
I used to cringe at the tower, but this year has made me feel like the tower & I are 'old buddies.' lol Just as someone else mentioned that the 10 of swords comes up a lot for them...the tower does for me & I'm still alive & kicking. But I'll admit that the 10 of swords does make me wince...as do the moon and the 9 of swords. 


blackroseivy  20 Jun 2005 
Toss-up between the 3 & the 10 of Swords, for me - though I'm not too fond of The Tower either! 


earth en lady  20 Jun 2005 
It's gotta be The Devil for me ,it's like that chocolate you crave when your on a diet or the lover you desire when you know it's not a good idea .Good in moderation but not sure the devil does moderation ;)
But close second is the five of discs ,It always tells me lots and lots of bills are coming
Blessings
earth en lady 


NeuroticNovice  20 Jun 2005 
The Seven of Cups (in Thoth) always makes my heart sink whenever it comes up. Stagnation,addiction, guilt, self delusion, dissipation of love. The worst thing about it is that its usually self inflicted from lack of self control. In my mind there is nothing more dangerous.
I'd rather take ten swords in the back or bear a burden of staves. At least thats an advesary you can recognise.
The seven of cups is a seductive evil that creeps into your soul under the disguise as pleasure. Its a theif of wisdom, a devil wispering lies into your ear.

I'd hate to see that card come up next to the Moon or the Devil. *shudder* 


Lady Maria  20 Jun 2005 
The worst card? I don't particularily like the Devil, but it has been very usefull to me. I'm fine with the Tower and Death; I find change exciting.

I think my worst would be the 3 of swords. I also find the Hanged Man frustrating becuase I hate being in limbo- just waiting. But I like the spiritual side of it which has come up in this thread. That takes on a whole new meaning... kind of like meditation. That I can work with!
~Maria 


Marina  20 Jun 2005 
obsidian_queen wrote:
I know Yuko, you're right about the sexual energy...but I guess again the cards mean different things for different ppl. That same sexual energy came up to describe a relationship I had with this guy that I really liked....I wanted to be with him on a deeper level, but knew he had a strong physical attraction to me, so that's what I used to draw him in. Things met a dead end...because he really just got hooked on the sex, and just stayed caught up in that...and I felt cheap at the end so...you know. I've found since then that whenever this particular message needs to be conveyed to me in a reading...there's the good old Devil to the rescue.


Of course, of course, i do agree with you. I wasn't trying to be the Devil's Advocate :joke:, just to see the other side.
And the Devil is just physical...you must always be careful if you get only a sexual message and there is no other card indicating some feelings (unless you just want a one night stand).

~Yuko 


Annabelle  20 Jun 2005 
The one card that always makes me cringe, oddly enough, is the Fool. There are so many possibilities that can be indicated by the Fool, and I often have difficultly knowing what to say about it when it appears. Give me the Tower, the Devil, the 10 of swords, etc. any day before the Fool.... 


Marina  20 Jun 2005 
Helvetica wrote:
The Hanged Man is hanging upside down like a foetus. He is gestating. It is what comes after that is interesting - Death. If the Hanged Man doesn't evolve he shrivels, like a foetus that doesn't grow and isn't born. For an artist (I am a writer) he is an essential step in the creative process - that is where so much is preparing itself - while we think we are stuck, all the time the baby is growing inside us. But then we must allow Death to occur - the death of this suspended state, that will precipitate change and work and integration (Temperance) and deep exploration (the Devil) until the whole thing blows up and what is locked inside comes out (the Tower)...and then on until the World.


Hum...interesting view - hadn't thought about it, thank you! :)
I guess personally the Hanged Man will never strike me as inspiration, but i do agree he is a foetus...waiting in the dark. The limbo. The Hanged Man decides to evolve - this personal change, that may bring pain (leaving such a meditative state and falling back into the 'real' world must be kinda painful), is represented by Death.

Ace wrote:
The Hanged Man is also looking at the world from a new prospective: seeing what we can't see because we aren't willing to look at things from a new angle. He is in many decks "enlightened" by that view.


I agree one that too! I wasn't saying the Hanged Man doesn't change anything - he changes his inner vision. But it cannot be compared to the Death or the Tower, in the change aspect.
For me, the description of brh986's book makes the Hanged Man too...happy. I mean, as if getting the Hanged Man is perfect, all should stay in that state. It's not a bad card (for me there's not bad card), but not so sugar. It's a necessary step (all cards are important in our lives, aren't them? :D) but, as i said, i wouldn't like to get in a reading about the future of a new project.


Thanks a lot for your insights, Helvetica and Ace. I hope you didn't think of me as rude, that's just my point of view...and i was trying to show brh986 another vision. Meant no harm!

Love

~Yuko 


Fudugazi  20 Jun 2005 
miss_yuko wrote:
I guess personally the Hanged Man will never strike me as inspiration, but i do agree he is a foetus...waiting in the dark. The limbo. The Hanged Man decides to evolve - this personal change, that may bring pain (leaving such a meditative state and falling back into the 'real' world must be kinda painful), is represented by Death.
I agree - in himself the Hanged Man does not represent inspiration: but he is the one that processes inspiration. Artists are stimulated by a thousand things. Sometimes you literally have to get into a limbo in order for all that experience and observation to work inside you. The danger is getting too comfortable with that state - and not getting on with things; another danger is being scared of it and rushing the process. It's a delicate balance....(pun intended ;))


miss_yuko wrote:
I agree one that too! I wasn't saying the Hanged Man doesn't change anything - he changes his inner vision. But it cannot be compared to the Death or the Tower, in the change aspect.
Again, I think the Hanged Man is an essential preparation for change - he does not make it happen. He is the thought before the action, the still before the storm if you like. I had a moment of Hanged Man for about 6 weeks in April-May- a preparation for a new life. It was horribly uncomfortable, but I see now, a necessary step. A lot rose during that time, hidden and unconscious, which was able to show itself in the quiet and the new perspective offered by the Hanged Man.


miss_yuko wrote:
I hope you didn't think of me as rude, that's just my point of view...
Personally I never find it rude to express an honestly held opinion. Quite the opposite - it is stimulating. Your vision of the Hanged Man is one more I can meditate on with this card. So I thank you.

There are - to me - some very dark aspects of this card. Some "worst" aspects, if you like - which are likely to be part due to personal experience and part vision of the physical predicament in which the character finds himself. Hanging upside down is one of the worse tortures known to man. After a while, your blood vessels burst with the pressure, you can blead from all orifices, you urinate all over yourself, and worse. Your feeling goes in your leg and if you are left long enough, your are going to lose at least one leg. I worked with victims of torture for many years, so I cannot see this card without a shudder, but I have been working hard at trying to see other sides of it than the barely physical. I realised how much he meant to me in the creative process at least! 


gollog  21 Jun 2005 
another vote for the tower! Have a very bad experience with that one. And I don't like the 10 of swords, no heavy experiences there, just don't like the picture in most cards 


rachelcat  21 Jun 2005 
I'm surprised no one has mentioned 5 Swords. This is the ultimate NO card to me. Well, in one case it was a "yes." Years ago, my husband asked if he was going to get fired, and 5 Swords came up. I tried to tell him it meant there was going to be lots of conflict at work, but I knew. And then he DID get fired. So I learned two lessons--the meaning of 5 Swords and not to equivocate. When the cards give me a straight answer, I should pass that straight answer along to the querant! 


Alice23  22 Jun 2005 
Hi guys, I've got to say my worst cards are the Tower, three of swords and 10 of swords. The tower, for me, has always sent a shiver down my spine after I kept getting it before some pretty horrible events......the 10 of swords, I know can be a card saying you're coming through the worse, but of course it can go the other way and say the worst is yet to come......the 3 of Swords I simply dont like because of the heartbreak aspect..for me its never meant anything else, just that...and has been right every time!!

Alice x 


PlatinumDove  22 Jun 2005 
The three of swords and the ten of swords....*shivers* 


Alectra  23 Jun 2005 
3 of Swords... & the Tower for me ....

Alectra 


Dragons Lady  25 Jun 2005 
I dont like the tower either...makes me think that things will fall apart 


mingbop  25 Jun 2005 
3 swords , 5 swords, 8 swords, 9 swords, 10 swords ! I DO NOT LIKE SWORDS !! lol 


light2000  25 Jun 2005 
Well, 3 of swords, 10 of swords, the tower, 5 of cups, 8 of cups, and if isnt a spiritual question the hangle man. 


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