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Hello everybody, that thread follows a discussion opened two times under the titles "XVIII La Lune" (opened by Catboxer) and "Looking for a good Tourcaty scan of the Moon" (opened by myself). In the last one I asked Yves le Marsellais (Hi Yves !) to help me to make a litle list of the samples of the arcana XVIII in the many decks we have in hands (Yves haves much more than myself), to make an inventory on how many drops are the ground of the Moon in these historical decks (only Marseilles, and Besançon who follow the Marseilles canon the closest possible).
I already know for the following:
Chosson - 1 drop (on the ground), in the center, betwen the two dogs and under the two grass
Conver - idem
Dodal - 3 drops between the two dogs and again 3 on the left side under the tower
Noblet - one yellow drop on the right side behind the dog
J. and J.P. Payen - 3 + 3 drops in the same style as Dodal, + 2 drops on the right behind the dog like Noblet (it seems Camoin also followed those).
Tourcaty - Yves Le Marseillais told me there is no drops on the ground
Grimaud - one little trace is probably refering to the central drop present in the Conver and the Chosson
Bourlion - cannot say, the arcana XIII is missing from the copy I know
Fautrier - idem
Drago - canno't say
Blanck - cannot say
Madenié - Canno't say exactly but seems to follow Chosson/Conver
Bodet - out of canon
Viéville - out of canon
Krebz - no drops
Camoin/Jodo - seems to follow J. and J.P. Payen (means adding Dodal + Noblet's drops, or maybe the Payen family found an old document showing all these drops)
For some decks which relating to historical canons are not of great reference for me:
Bodet - out of canon
Viéville - out of canon
Krebz - no drops
Blanck - cannot say
Burdel - No drops on the ground
Hadar - no drops on the ground (but it is not a reference for me)
Everybody who feels so can help to complete that list!
Thank you, have a wonderfull day!
I already know for the following:
Chosson - 1 drop (on the ground), in the center, betwen the two dogs and under the two grass
Conver - idem
Dodal - 3 drops between the two dogs and again 3 on the left side under the tower
Noblet - one yellow drop on the right side behind the dog
J. and J.P. Payen - 3 + 3 drops in the same style as Dodal, + 2 drops on the right behind the dog like Noblet (it seems Camoin also followed those).
Tourcaty - Yves Le Marseillais told me there is no drops on the ground
Grimaud - one little trace is probably refering to the central drop present in the Conver and the Chosson
Bourlion - cannot say, the arcana XIII is missing from the copy I know
Fautrier - idem
Drago - canno't say
Blanck - cannot say
Madenié - Canno't say exactly but seems to follow Chosson/Conver
Bodet - out of canon
Viéville - out of canon
Krebz - no drops
Camoin/Jodo - seems to follow J. and J.P. Payen (means adding Dodal + Noblet's drops, or maybe the Payen family found an old document showing all these drops)
For some decks which relating to historical canons are not of great reference for me:
Bodet - out of canon
Viéville - out of canon
Krebz - no drops
Blanck - cannot say
Burdel - No drops on the ground
Hadar - no drops on the ground (but it is not a reference for me)
Everybody who feels so can help to complete that list!
Thank you, have a wonderfull day!