Thelemic dream? Philosophical dream? Prescient love dream?

[Sophie]

I had an intriguing dream last night.

I received two love letters from someone who signed himself Will. One was on black card, and one on white card, both of the cards were large and had no picture. The white letter was almost blank, except for the greeting, the parting (both of which were very fond), and the signature. The black letter was filled with writing (I forget the colour of the ink, but it was light and visible). It was a passionate love letter, which also implied that the writer and I were made for each other and he proposed marriage. It made me feel very alive reading it, and joyful, though I had no idea who 'Will' was. In the letter was also some rather cryptic sentences, though I don't remember them - only that I puzzled over them.

In the dream I took the letters to the 'interpreter', a kind of oracular interpreter of letters, to ask him if he knew who 'Will' was, if he could help me understand the cryptic sentences in the black letter and what to make of the blank white letter. The interpreter told me that Will was my destiny and that I would be happy with him; he said that I would understand the cryptic sentences in time and find out what was in the blank letter when I and Will married. He said Will was someone I already knew, though I knew him by another name. The dream then got a bit confused as I tried to meet this 'Will', and went through all sorts of trials and picaresque adventures in order to do so - and woke up halfway through.


On waking I was struck by the philosophical aspect of the dream, and also by its thelemic content (especially the name of my 'destined one' - 'Will'). But the love aspect - the idea that this was a real man writing to me, not just a personification - was not overshadowed by these. All three aspects seem to coexist and reinforce each other in this dream, and I'm not sure what to make of it. It feels like an important dream, and the letters in particular and the conversation with the Interpreter are very clearly etched in my mind. At one point, I also heard 'Will''s voice in my mind, as I read the letters (like in a film). It was a solid, beautiful male voice, filled with love and authority.

I am not a thelemite, although I've always liked the injunction: 'Love is the Law, Love under Will', which seems particularly relevant to this dream.


Any thoughts you might have are very welcome

[Rosanne]

It sounds an intriguing dream Sophie and quite lucid.
Well I would go for colours first and you mentioned clearly black and white cards.
Well aside from their obvious duality- black is a type of adjustment and white is like light energy coming. The adjustment colour of black was very busy and the white of energy was very spare- so I would think a time is nearly here of calm expectation.
That you took the cards to a oracular helper is interesting. You did this in the dream so you knew there was a message. I think that message was "will"
Maybe you are now free emotionally to do as you "will'? It is almost like saying the time is right. It is funny about this because I sort of feel, reading your words- that you have moved from knowing that you can, to knowing you will. Like the dream told you that it was alright.
I imagine you are in the right place both mentally and physically to be open to whoever was always there, but you have not yet met. Sounds like a teacher of some sort, someone well adjusted and just waiting too; in some sort of field you are in- in your circle of interests. That is the familiarity- not the person. That is how I read your words.
I wish for him to have wings on his feet.

~Rosanne

[.traveller.]

Wonderful! You dream like I do, very clear and concise, yet packed with symbolism.

To me, the duality is key. There is a man, and there is your will. Your will is instrumental in making the connection with this "man", who may be a thelemite or is comfortable with their tenets.

Depending upon your personal color symbolism, one of those letters represents what you are sending out, the other is what is coming in. So if you identify with the White, then the Black is the response. In either case, I would guess that some desire you have put out there has been heard and responded to. It is only a matter of time before your paths intersect.

[Milfoil]

Originally Posted by Sophie

I received two love letters from someone who signed himself Will. One was on black card, and one on white card, both of the cards were large and had no picture. The white letter was almost blank, except for the greeting, the parting (both of which were very fond), and the signature. The black letter was filled with writing (I forget the colour of the ink, but it was light and visible). It was a passionate love letter, which also implied that the writer and I were made for each other and he proposed marriage. It made me feel very alive reading it, and joyful, though I had no idea who 'Will' was. In the letter was also some rather cryptic sentences, though I don't remember them - only that I puzzled over them.

Black and white suggests ying & yang, male and female, polar opposites and even reminds me of the pillars on the high priestess card. These are sent as a message and when we consider that virtually all dream metaphors are aspects of ourselves, this would suggest a message about integration of opposites. A realisation of the coming together of the dualistic within. The proposal of marriage reminds me of the 'sacred marriage' and also fits with the combining of opposites to create the whole.

Originally Posted by Sophie

In the dream I took the letters to the 'interpreter', a kind of oracular interpreter of letters, to ask him if he knew who 'Will' was, if he could help me understand the cryptic sentences in the black letter and what to make of the blank white letter. The interpreter told me that Will was my destiny and that I would be happy with him; he said that I would understand the cryptic sentences in time and find out what was in the blank letter when I and Will married. He said Will was someone I already knew, though I knew him by another name. The dream then got a bit confused as I tried to meet this 'Will', and went through all sorts of trials and picaresque adventures in order to do so - and woke up halfway through.

An interpreter suggests that you have the capacity now or are reaching a stage when you can work out or 'interpret' some things which have, until now, been hidden. Again, this is a realisation of that aspect of yourself. The name 'Will' suggests your willpower or strength of mind. Perhaps the confusion of meeting Will is symbolic of how difficult it is or what trials we have to go through in order to integrate this opposite aspect of ourselves.

Originally Posted by Sophie

It feels like an important dream, and the letters in particular and the conversation with the Interpreter are very clearly etched in my mind. At one point, I also heard 'Will''s voice in my mind, as I read the letters (like in a film). It was a solid, beautiful male voice, filled with love and authority.

If solid (stability?), beauty, love and authority are what's needed to complete you, then this dream suggests that this is now available. The marriage has been offered so it is possible. If this were my dream I would take it as an excellent sign that a significant stage in personal development is in view. That past troubles have played their part in bringing the necessary realisations forward and that this 'sacred marriage' which will integrate the necessary opposites to bring balance is available.

It could be precognitive as well. Who knows, Will may enter your life and bring all the above into your life but if a literal 'dream guy' doesn't turn up, then this dream is still demonstrating a significant personal step.

[Sophie]

Oh, some great ideas here! Thank you Rosanne, Traveller and Millie.

I want to read them all again carefully, then will return with some feedback, later today or tomorrow.

[Sophie]

I've been thinking about this dream again.

I still don't know exactly what it means, I have a feeling things will reveal themselves in time.

Originally Posted by Rosanne

That you took the cards to a oracular helper is interesting. You did this in the dream so you knew there was a message. I think that message was "will"
Maybe you are now free emotionally to do as you "will'? It is almost like saying the time is right. It is funny about this because I sort of feel, reading your words- that you have moved from knowing that you can, to knowing you will. Like the dream told you that it was alright.

There's a lot in what you say - I especially like what you say about moving from 'knowing that I can to knowing that I will.' Knowing that I will...what? I wonder it might be 'filling in the blank white page'?

Originally Posted by .traveller

Depending upon your personal color symbolism, one of those letters represents what you are sending out, the other is what is coming in. So if you identify with the White, then the Black is the response.

And so here too, it would be my 'Will' to fill in the blank white page?

Originally Posted by Milfoil

Black and white suggests ying & yang, male and female, polar opposites and even reminds me of the pillars on the high priestess card. These are sent as a message and when we consider that virtually all dream metaphors are aspects of ourselves, this would suggest a message about integration of opposites. A realisation of the coming together of the dualistic within. The proposal of marriage reminds me of the 'sacred marriage' and also fits with the combining of opposites to create the whole.

I like that - and I have felt the need for it. The High Priestess pillars speak to me, as it's a card I've always identified with and an energy I fully need to integrate, before I can be truly myself.

Originally Posted by Milfoil

It could be precognitive as well. Who knows, Will may enter your life and bring all the above into your life but if a literal 'dream guy' doesn't turn up, then this dream is still demonstrating a significant personal step.

There could be something in what Traveller wrote above: if there is a human 'Will', he will respond when I have completed my side of things... the white letter?


It's struck me how alchemical this dream was, too.


I love dreams like this, even though they can be a bit like Chinese puzzles