Is anyone familiar with this TdM from AGMuller?

[Sulis]

Originally Posted by kenji

The original of this deck is the colour lithography version of Johannes Muller TdM, which was published after 1901. This 1990 reprint deck is, according to Mr Walter Haas, "in somewhat duller colours" than the original ("Schweizer Spielkarten 2").

Albert Nyfeler, a Swiss artist, depicted this original deck in his 1933 painting. (THE STAR and THE DEVIL can barely seen.)

Originally Posted by kenji

And you can see all the 78 cards of a still earlier version here.

Kenji thanks for the extra information. Doesn't the original look gorgeous? The colours are yummy..
I'm really looking forward to getting this deck, it looks as if it will be an excellent reading deck since the characters look so engaging and the lines look clean.

[Sulis]

My copy has arrived and I have to say that it's absolutely lovely but I'm wondering whether I can actually use it because the backs are so nasty that they're completely putting me off the deck. I expected some generic pattern as on most TdMs but goodness me, this is tripped out nightmareness.
I've attached a couple of images of the deck and the dreaded back.

[Yves Le Marseillais]

Originally Posted by Sulis

My copy has arrived and I have to say that it's absolutely lovely but I'm wondering whether I can actually use it because the backs are so nasty that they're completely putting me off the deck. I expected some generic pattern as on most TdMs but goodness me, this is tripped out nightmareness.
I've attached a couple of images of the deck and the dreaded back.

Ouch !!

One of the worst back I ever saw... but many are horrible.
I do prefer originals or real facsimiles anyway.

An option to copy an old historical deck's back and to glue it: More safe fr your eyes.

Best )

Yves

[Sulis]

It really is horrid. If they wanted a striped card back that would have been fine if they'd used the lovely muted colours that the card faces have. Deep green, blue and muted red or gold would have looked OK.. These backs actually seem to move and make me feel quite ill when I'm shuffling...
Ewwwwwwwww....

[MoonGypsy]

Originally Posted by Sulis

My copy has arrived and I have to say that it's absolutely lovely but I'm wondering whether I can actually use it because the backs are so nasty that they're completely putting me off the deck. I expected some generic pattern as on most TdMs but goodness me, this is tripped out nightmareness.
I've attached a couple of images of the deck and the dreaded back.

Oh no, Sulis! i remember having this deck, too! i couldn't use it, it made me so dizzy, i felt like i had vertigo! What WERE they thinking? They look like a mans bad tie!

[garmonbozia]

Originally Posted by Sulis

It really is horrid. If they wanted a striped card back that would have been fine if they'd used the lovely muted colours that the card faces have. Deep green, blue and muted red or gold would have looked OK.. These backs actually seem to move and make me feel quite ill when I'm shuffling...
Ewwwwwwwww....

The backs are horrible. I should have warned about that, but I was so pleased to get a nice TdM deck that I was completely unfamiliar with at such a great price, I overlooked the glaringly (and I do mean glare) obvious.

[garmonbozia]

If anyone is looking for this deck, I saw that it was for sale again on eBay.

[Rhoswen]

I got this deck recently from the posting on eBay.

At first I, too, was horrified by the backs. Or, at the least, found them monotonous and off-putting.

But I'm finding that, as the cards move in front of my vision while I'm shuffling or fanning them, the design creates an almost hypnotic state. (The colors reminds me of the pinwheel I saw in my inner vision when going under from anesthesia when I got my tonsils out as a child.)

And I like that feeling. For me, this results in the same state as doing deep breathing at the beginning of meditation.

YMMV.

[Barleywine]

Originally Posted by gregory

By the colouring, I'd say that's basically the Tarot Classic. Close enough to do, I'd say.

http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/cards/tarot-classic/

Beware of that store though. Their postage is TERRIFYING and when they sell you something that turns out to have been TOTALLY mislisted (and cost a lot) they will only give a SMALL credit against another order (why would I DO that ??? NEVER AGAIN !) and that only after 3 weeks of emails.


If you can bear it in German, I think this is it (remember Muller has been taken over...):

http://www.amazon.de/Tarotkarten-Mar...611432&sr=8-44

I can't find the same in French. Yet. I do actually HAVE it - what did you want to know ?

OOH it has an ISBN though:3-905-021-29-3 Which does come up in a few places.


The 2 coins reads Fabrique de Cartes a Schaffhouse. Which of course is NOT Muller's city. Just like the Tarot Classic, again. And there is the JR on the 4 coins. But the Classic has M for Muller, as I recall.

I see Boatwin on ebay has the Classic up for sale and listed as rare - at a whacking price...

This is interesting. I have the Tarot Classic here on my desk as I read this. The line drawing is, stroke-for-stroke, identical to the one shown here, but the coloring is quite different. The 2 of Coins has the Fabrique de Cartes A Schaffhouse wording but all of the titled cards are in English instead of French. The 4 of Coins has an ornate "M" in the middle. The cards have a nice feel to them. The one here looks like a reissue with the colors redone. I can't say that they're an improvement.

[garmonbozia]

I have a Tarot Classic on its way to me from Alida. I'm looking forward to comparing the colors between the two decks. I never bought the Tarot Classic before because I am not a fan of non-French titles on TdM cards, and I could never find the French-titled version in stock anywhere. Of course, Alida had it in stock all along and I never noticed until recently.

I initially purchased this AGM deck to use as a game deck because it was inexpensive, but I've not yet gotten around to learning any tarot games. From the web images I have seen, I prefer the coloration on the Tarot Classic, but cards often look very different in person. I might yet become attached to this deck and stick to my modern tarocco decks for games.