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But it DOES affect the cards! LOL!!! If you are distressed or ambivalent - that shows up in the cards, too, not just in your 'reading' of them.
I'm in complete agreement with you there!

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I always accept this a further 'proof' that the cards are under the control of the subconscious mind, and not external sources as others believe. (Not trying to trash anyone's beliefs here).
I prefer to think of it as the cards being controlled by the divine, but then again I'm of the mind that the gods exist within us as well as without. Even if it was one or the other, though, I've got to admit I don't see that as incompatible with the idea that they are controlling the cards and using our subconscious as a conduit to do so.



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Your mood affects how your read the cards, yes.

It doesn't affect the cards themselves, since they're made of pulped wood and are insentient.

When I'm feeling too emotional to read the cards with some degree of separation I do one of two things:
1) Don't read tarot. There's no point.

or

2) Choose a deck where I need to read the book to know what the cards mean. This usually means the Rosetta or the Thoth: pull the cards, read the book, feel reassured that I've minimized projection on my part. It's as distanced a self-reading as its possible to do...
Sorry hon but i do believe the cards are effected tremendously, what we feel is in the cards so to speak, i found when i was moody or not with it i found the cards the cards i pulled sort of reflected my mood at the time. I always say when we pull the cards its like baking a cake if were not in the mood then the end product will show. Only my view hon.



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But it DOES affect the cards! LOL!!!
i totally agree with this statement, it does effect the cards.



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... the cards i pulled sort of reflected my mood at the time.
I see it the other way around. For me the cards are mirrors, a rorshach test. If I'm using them for a self-reading, or for a self-analysis, at least. Predictive... well, it may be different, but it may not. In some cases I've been too emotional to read the cards, and have picked out details based either on my extreme hopes or profound fears. So, as I said, if I'm feeling very emotional and want a disinterested answer I'll pick something like the Rosetta where I have to go to a third party to get an analysis.

So, yes. My mood can affect how I read the cards. I can't make my cards mad, though, when I'm mad. When I'm sad, they won't feel sad. If I'm worried, the cards aren't worried. I may well pull cards that tell me why I'm worried, or reflect my worry... but it's not because the cards are feeling it. They can't feel it. They can reflect it, mirror it back to me, put it into context, give me extra information about it... but they won't be feeling it. They can't.

As for the rest... well, if it's your subconscious having an effect, it's still you and not the cards. For me, they're a tool to access the message, so to speak: it's like writing an angry letter then saying it's because the pen was cross.

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Only my view hon.
Fair enough Different strokes for different folks and all that... just my .2 cents! I can be extremely literal sometimes, though, and may not be answering the same question that's being asked!



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Your mood affects how your read the cards, yes.

It doesn't affect the cards themselves, since they're made of pulped wood and are insentient.
Indeed, my thoughts exactly.

I don't believe the cards I pull are directly affected by my mood, but my mood can certainly have an effect on the details I see in the cards and my interpretations of the cards.

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Thank you for all your insight, such interesting reading! I can see both sides of it. But I know when I feel low I usually get a reading that reflects my mood, but is this because they are like a mirror and telling me what I am feeling already.. or am I projecting my negative feeling onto them, if that makes any sense?!
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I see it the other way around. For me the cards are mirrors, a rorshach test. If I'm using them for a self-reading, or for a self-analysis, at least. Predictive... well, it may be different, but it may not. In some cases I've been too emotional to read the cards, and have picked out details based either on my extreme hopes or profound fears. So, as I said, if I'm feeling very emotional and want a disinterested answer I'll pick something like the Rosetta where I have to go to a third party to get an analysis.

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So, yes. My mood can affect how I read the cards. I can't make my cards mad, though, when I'm mad. When I'm sad, they won't feel sad. If I'm worried, the cards aren't worried. I may well pull cards that tell me why I'm worried, or reflect my worry... but it's not because the cards are feeling it. They can't feel it. They can reflect it, mirror it back to me, put it into context, give me extra information about it... but they won't be feeling it. They can't.
oh i agree on this totally god forbid the cards feel our emotions and pain as mine would be seeking out a counsellor by now. I do feel they reflect on our moods, thats why most of us dont read when we are down or upset.

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As for the rest... well, if it's your subconscious having an effect, it's still you and not the cards. For me, they're a tool to access the message, so to speak: it's like writing an angry letter then saying it's because the pen was cross.
lol love this explanation seriously, next time i send a shitty email i say the computor was having a bad day lol.



Fair enough Different strokes for different folks and all that... just my .2 cents! I can be extremely literal sometimes, though, and may not be answering the same question that's being asked!
you put your 2 cents in DD everyone is entitled to give there views. There is nothing wrong with being literal lol we all have that little bit of gene in us, i certainly do and its more than 2 cents lol. A bit of banter never did any one any harm.
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Although I personally believe that the mind does affect the cards physically (sort of like telekinesis), I don't think it can be proven scientifically one way or the other. However, the straw man argument is fallacious.
Example: If the unconscious mind affects the cards, then the cards can "feel." The idea that an inanimate object can "feel" is absurd. Therefore the mind does not directly affect the cards.
In the example, what has been shot down is not the idea of the mind affecting the cards, but the exaggeration about the cards "feeling" something. Set up a straw man and then shoot him down. It proves nothing.

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I find it harder to interpret a reading when I'm bent out of shape over something. So I think maybe your state of mind plays more of a role than emotions do because the reading is unswayed by what I feel. The cards never reflect what I feel unless I concentrate on my emotions or ask about them directly. I've learned to either come back to the subject when I have a cool head and do a reading then or exchange with someone.

I really try to avoid using my decks when I'm upset about something because I don't want to instill that energy in my cards if that makes any sense.
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Hi all,

I am feeling on a bit of a downer at the moment and low, but I did a reading for myself last Sunday and I wonder how you try and detach yourself from the mood to have a clear reading? Does this make any sense? I mean, did I get a negative reading because I was feeling this way? You views appreciated. Thanks!
Your mood can't affect the cards, the way i see it, but it can affect what you see in the cards. If you are feeling pessimistic you are likely to see more negative thigns in the cards (even if they were not meant to there) than if you are feeling optimistic.

You can get a negative reading if that is how you are feeling, but it is coming from you, not from the cards.

That being said. My best way to stay calm and optimistic is meditation. Also taking a time out to read or watch somethng funny can only help. Sometiems you just need a time out to clear your mind. Walk in nature helps too.

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