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The Book of The Law Study Group 3.57
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http://hermetic.com/crowley/index.html http://lib.oto-usa.org/libri/liber0220.html Other threads in this study group __________________ The Book of the LOL II:76. 1 3 3 7 Z O M F G W T F B B Q R O T F L M A O S T C 7 3 3 1. WTF iz dis, O proffit? Iz rly hard maffs, liek kalkulis an stuffs. Srsly. So yu dunno, n00b. yu nevr no. Sum1 l8r moar 1337 den yu will no. Jus follow luvz of n00 an stuffs, an tell awl teh hoomins. |
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Seems like a line that is even more obscure than most. Could it be that the real "fight" is internal, and this is a cry against so-called ideological wars, perhaps even an anti-imperialistic sentiment? I try not to drag "real life" into the verses but this one makes it more difficult. __________________ "Many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view" Obi-wan Kenobi |
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Personally I think III x 57 = 171 is quite significant to the inner meaning of this verse and the ones that follow. 171 is the mystic number of the 18th path - Cheth, Atu VII The Chariot. We've just had a set of Binah themed verses, so this verse and the ones that follow may be the natural outcome of Mary being "torn upon wheels." The Water of Life flows again? As Crowley says in the Book of Thoth (p.85), Cancer is the cardinal sign of the element of Water. The 18th path is the route by which the Supernal Waters(Blood) of the Great Mother Binah descend upon Geburah - the energy of humanity - and inspires it. It is curious that of the four powers of the Sphinx it is Water that relates to courage - Audere, to Dare. And right at the start of this verse we have a rant against cowardice, which is a lack of courage. The reference to soliders might be more understandable if taken in the general context of the third chapter which is the battle and war at the pre-Adept stages of initiation. Maybe the soldiers who play are those who treat Thelema as a game and are afraid to bloody themselves in battle. In that case they never make an authentic connection and thus the inspiration never flows. (To me III:46 has the flavour of this inspiration.) The "fools" could always be just literal idiots. But maybe it refers to follis, airy windbags, intellectual Thelemic-wannabe theoreticians who do all their fighting from the comfort of an armchair. Just jumping ahead a little, but the four brothers mentioned next might correspond to the four Kerubs before the Chariot. The constituent parts of man need to fight like brothers in this battle. __________________ The vast majority of people who go to "fortune tellers" have nothing else in mind but the wish to obtain supernatural sanction for their follies. ~ Aleister Crowley |
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I like your thoughts on this verse, although, as is often the case, the verse is, if interpreted thus, off-putting, if one lets it be. Do nought but thy Will, of course, but it seems like this verse goes against the engaging friendliness of Magick Without Tears, if any "budding" initiate is to be "despised" since they haven't committed fully (yet) to their True Wills. I do suspect, however, Crowley himself didn't fully despise them, as he did love to teach. It is all too easy to forget this is Aiwass and not Crowley, although verses like this seem to bear a little too much resemblance to the many "jealous God" quotes present in other modes of faith. __________________ "Many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view" Obi-wan Kenobi Last edited by closrapexa; 01-10-2012 at 01:19. |
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What if this soldier is merely a wayward aspect of the self? Crowley loved to teach. But he didn't have much time for posers, time wasters, and psuedo-intellectuals. __________________ The vast majority of people who go to "fortune tellers" have nothing else in mind but the wish to obtain supernatural sanction for their follies. ~ Aleister Crowley |
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So I've been reading Fortune on Geburah.Quote:
AW __________________ I will drink the ocean. |
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The theme of this verse along with the possible connection to, Atu VII The Chariot, makes me think of the early chapters of the Bhagavad Gita. The whole discourse between Arjuna and Krishna takes place on a chariot in the middle of a battlefield. Arjuna refuses to fight, becomes despondent and throws down his weapons. Krishna rebukes him for his cowardice and urges him to do his duty in a way that is highly reminisent of parts of Liber Legis. I:42-43 immediately comes to mind. After that Krishna goes off on a spiel about different yogas. It's very interesting. Crowley thought quite highly of it. __________________ The vast majority of people who go to "fortune tellers" have nothing else in mind but the wish to obtain supernatural sanction for their follies. ~ Aleister Crowley |
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I like that connection. Isn't that the story where Krishna shows Arjuna the opposing army is composed of his loved ones, and then tells him that the battle has already been fought and won, and in this way rebukes him for not doing his duty? When put that way, this verse's connection to True Will becomes clearer. Thanks for that. __________________ "Many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view" Obi-wan Kenobi |
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AW __________________ I will drink the ocean. Last edited by Always Wondering; 01-10-2012 at 07:50. |
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Here's the quote from the Bhagavad Gita that I was thinking of. Bhagavad Gita II:31-33 Quote:
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![]() http://lib.oto-usa.org/libri/liber0031.html?num=45 __________________ The vast majority of people who go to "fortune tellers" have nothing else in mind but the wish to obtain supernatural sanction for their follies. ~ Aleister Crowley |
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