Sibilla Oracle Cards

[Stregaverde]

Not much to add here, but at least in modern Italian, GRAVIDANZA does indeed mean pregnancy.

Interesting thread. Viva Italia!

[stella01904]

MM ~ I remember you! You told me about the penitents. Do you have a Sibilla? BB, Stella

[Stregaverde]

No, not yet, but they are all over the place here. I was totally unfamiliar with them until I dug up this thread. They sound pretty interesting, though! I'll probably get one (or two) decks later in the year, but I have a couple of oracle decks coming (my first) and between that and the Tarot, I'm full up for card studying. I'm very interested to hear others' opinions, though!

[stella01904]

MM ~ Yes, I hear they have them in the supermarkets over there! Lucky, lucky, lucky...! BB, Stella PS Let us know when you get them! To know them is to love them - they are very precise and plain-spoken!

[Cerulean]

Some gypsy or Lenormand cards seem to be similar.

English fortune-telling cards, some have the clouds (passing misfortune, cloudyness) or dog (fidelity) from the sibilla and lenormand cards:

http://www.wopc.co.uk/tarot/divination.html

Giordani Berti classifies the Sibilla and Lenormand together:

http://translate.google.com/translat...ial_s%26sa%3DG

If you see the two online lenormand links below, I notice a house and some similar images...in my Italian sibilla cards, I seemed to recognize the 'casa' or 'house', dog for fideility and clouds images...I noticed my Dreams cards from Lo Scarabeo, my Lenormand cards from Lo Scarabeo and Antica Sibilla from Lo Scarabeo had similar meanings for the house, clouds and dog images...(I posted a thread on similar meanings here).

http://www.libralion.com/lenormand.htm

http://www.thechanceryhouse.com/ml2/allcards.php

I may be wrong and mixing things up...I remember seeing Jeu de Destiny cards as well, but they might not be the same...

[stella01904]

Originally Posted by Cerulean

Some gypsy or Lenormand cards seem to be similar.

English fortune-telling cards, some have the clouds (passing misfortune, cloudyness) or dog (fidelity) from the sibilla and lenormand cards:

http://www.wopc.co.uk/tarot/divination.html

MM ~ I couldn't get this link to work, but you are correct, the Dog, House, and others tend to be common to a good many decks.

Giordani Berti classifies the Sibilla and Lenormand together:

http://translate.google.com/translat...ial_s%26sa%3DG

Yes, they are related. Though I don't think anyone has found the "Ur" or "proto" deck. Here is a site where you can compare oracle decks: http://www.intuitive-soul.com/gallery

If you see the two online lenormand links below, I notice a house and some similar images...in my Italian sibilla cards, I seemed to recognize the 'casa' or 'house', dog for fideility and clouds images...I noticed my Dreams cards from Lo Scarabeo, my Lenormand cards from Lo Scarabeo and Antica Sibilla from Lo Scarabeo had similar meanings for the house, clouds and dog images...(I posted a thread on similar meanings here).

A dog is a dog is a dog! The variations come from the individual cartomancer. I would tend to interpret the Sibilla Della Zingara dog slightly differently since it is a St. Bernard, a search and rescue dog, rather than the dog outside someones home that is usually pictured. But there is no set rule. There are hardly any books on the subject and none at all in English, but in my correspondence with people in European countries who have taken courses, etc., it all comes down to: free associate! Look at the card and several meanings will come to mind. Then look at the neighboring cards. That should give you a clue which meaning to go with.

http://www.thechanceryhouse.com/ml2/allcards.php

Those are head inset Lenormand Petit Jeu! Instead of playing card images they are all people cards. I got a deck on ebay (They're old cigarette cards put out by Carreras) but I haven't worked with them much. They are quite small and beautiful. though.

I may be wrong and mixing things up...I remember seeing Jeu de Destiny cards as well, but they might not be the same...

Jeu Du Destin Antique is on the site I linked you to. It's very different from Lenormand or Sibilla. Some of it is from mythology, like Grand Jeu. Jeu Du Destin is under "Personal Favorite Decks" Click on the deck, then click on the individual cards for a closer look. BB, Stella

[MatPoint]

Originally Posted by Myrrha

Oh, I see. Well, I am curious about these decks and the Lenormand decks.... Do they actually work well for readings?

Myrrha

Yes, they work very well. They are usually extremely accurate.

[Aerin]

Resurrected to say

Got the Il Meneghello deck today and it is really, really, really beautiful.

(Makes up for the Playing Card Oracles disappointment no end )

The booklet IS in Italian, but I can probably cope. I think. The pictures are fairly obvious when you have sen other playing card base decks.

Aerin

[Kenrick]

It looks like it has been a LONG time since there were posts here, but hopefully someone is still interested in these cards.

I've just picked up both a Sibilla deck and a few Lenormand decks. At least with the Lenormand decks there are a few resources in English to help learn them. Haven't found anything for Sibilla. Anyone know of any?

Also, for those far more experienced with these decks than I... what is the difference in readings with them? Just curious how and why you might like Sibilla over the Lenormand or vice versa.

[Kenrick]

Meant to also ask if the Sibilla cards are read in pairs like the Lenormand or if they are less sensitive to pairing?

I've read Tarot for years, so this is a bit of a different approach, but one that looks really interesting and practical.