History of the Piatnik Zigeuner deck

[Seaqueen]

Originally Posted by moderndayruth

Seaqueen, i inherited the same deck from my grandmother

Love,
Lena Ruth

Is your deck in color or a soft bluish shade? I wonder if any of the museums in Europe would have earlier cards as they do with the beginning of Tarot?

To me -it may remain a gipsy mystery. But I will continue to investigate until I find some reasonable linkage as they have with the Tarot in the museums.
Perhaps a totally romantic theory but maybe the King or Queen of a certain gipsy clan commissioned an artist within that clan. ha-ha. Sounds like the makings of a movie. ha-ha

[Seaqueen]

Originally Posted by Seaqueen

To me -it may remain a gipsy mystery.

Hi All: I revisited this 5 year old thread when I saw it in one of my google searches and was curious what was on my mind at time interacting on this thread.

There is a history to everything. Thanks to the help of google power searching many old books can now be reviewed in just about any language.

And speaking of the Lenormand cards look what has evolved over the last few years. New decks, English books etc. I really hope this deck does not experience what the Tarot did.

Believe it or not I am still searching for the numbered Zigeuener Wahrsagekarten 4 language deck which my aunt sent me decades ago.

[Cerulean]

I am reading a history of Russian divination from the 1700s. The information is
Fascinating...especially the diverse number of cards. The Russian divination fans imported Western playing card and fortune telling games...the folklore speculation is as fascinating as historical ideas.

It seems French Lenormand appeal was quite popular in the mid 1800s and priior to that cards of various fortunetelling sets, 32, 36, 52 became more standardized after Lenormand popularity. I was very interested in the suggestion these were parlor games more geared to ladies, as men seemed to use cards more for gambling.

I need to read more as to how specific German fortune sets might have been used and imported to Russia and also need to peek at Depaulis, Decker and Dummett, for more specific notes to add here.

More later....