Convos Marseille - Otto Spalinger - Page 5

northsea · 03-12-2005

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catlin · 06-12-2005

Got my Convos and 2 things struck me:

1) Does anybody know why the back of the cards is just this grey graphic? I think it does not match the pictures on the cards.

2) Why is a swan on the 4 of coins? Surely not because it also starts with an S like Spalinger's name? It is the only animal depicted on the Minors.

tarobones · 23-12-2005

I got this as my first Tarot de Marseilles and took to it right off. For me, and I know this is heretical, the English Language titles are a BIG PLUS. I do not speak French, and find the French titles annoying. But the brightness of the deck is the main draw for me. IF I could only get a Hadar with English titles.......LOL The Hadar is my second favorite.

Sophie · 23-12-2005

Tarotbones - as a Francophone myself, I totally understand you would want a deck in your own language! I think for some Anglophones there is a certain romanticism in saying "Reyne de Deniers" instead of Queen of Coins (especially since in modern French, it's spelled Reine!), but for familiarity I would suppose the mother tongue to be important. What I don't like in translated Marseille is when they translate "Reyne de Deniers" into Queen of Pentacles, or Papesse into High Priestess - which I think is both patronizing and a betrayal of the specificity of the ancient decks, which predate the era of High Priestesses and Pentacles by some centuries.

tarobones · 23-12-2005

Thanks for understanding, Helvetica. I did not intend to offend anybody for whom French is not an issue, just that I like to understand what I see. I can usually figure it out, of course, as I speak Spanish, but my own language is my preference. I agree regarding the Papesse and the Pentacles. Unfortunate. And even though I'm principally using the Fey at the moment, does not mean I've packed away my TdM!! :-)

Fulgour · 02-01-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by catlin

1) Does anybody know why the back of the cards is just this grey graphic? I think it does not match the pictures on the cards.

This is both a natural optical illusion (if you look at it a long time
the shapes begin the blur...) and according to Otto he used the
"Four Human Shapes" which since he didn't explain I went looking
and from the art school point of view, when sketching these are
the geometric shapes that can represent the parts of the body...
which isn't a textbook explanation but I can kind of see it working.

Kissa · 21-02-2006

I love your signature, fulgour

i just ordered a Convos. been lurking it for ages, now it is such a cheap deck in france, i placed an order on amazon and just stuck it in with...

i'll tell you how i like it.

kissa

catlin · 22-02-2006

Hm, I am still using the Convos and try to see the back of the card according to Fulgour's explanation.

However, I still wish there were a more matching pattern on the back.

Fulgour · 26-04-2006

I received today from Switzerland a very special gift.
And though there is so much more that might be said
my feeling is that I must post but these few words...
not to withold anything~ but for the sake of privacy.

northsea Citizen Join Date: 02 Nov 2001 Location: usa, west of the rockies Posts: 1,110	a message/warning for online purchases [deleted] 2009 edit: message no longer applicable, Last edited by northsea; 05-07-2009 at 15:16.

03-12-2005	Ask a Professional Tarot Reader Top #41

tarobones Citizen Join Date: 06 Dec 2003 Location: Illinois, USA Posts: 713	still my favorite I got this as my first Tarot de Marseilles and took to it right off. For me, and I know this is heretical, the English Language titles are a BIG PLUS. I do not speak French, and find the French titles annoying. But the brightness of the deck is the main draw for me. IF I could only get a Hadar with English titles.......LOL The Hadar is my second favorite. __________________ "We don't see things as they are, we see things as we are." (Anais Nin)

23-12-2005	Ask a Professional Tarot Reader Top #43

Sophie Citizen Join Date: 10 Oct 2004 Location: moving again Posts: 20,308	Tarotbones - as a Francophone myself, I totally understand you would want a deck in your own language! I think for some Anglophones there is a certain romanticism in saying "Reyne de Deniers" instead of Queen of Coins (especially since in modern French, it's spelled Reine!), but for familiarity I would suppose the mother tongue to be important. What I don't like in translated Marseille is when they translate "Reyne de Deniers" into Queen of Pentacles, or Papesse into High Priestess - which I think is both patronizing and a betrayal of the specificity of the ancient decks, which predate the era of High Priestesses and Pentacles by some centuries. __________________ All generalizations are false, including this one. Mark Twain

23-12-2005	Ask a Professional Tarot Reader Top #44

tarobones Citizen Join Date: 06 Dec 2003 Location: Illinois, USA Posts: 713	Thanks Thanks for understanding, Helvetica. I did not intend to offend anybody for whom French is not an issue, just that I like to understand what I see. I can usually figure it out, of course, as I speak Spanish, but my own language is my preference. I agree regarding the Papesse and the Pentacles. Unfortunate. And even though I'm principally using the Fey at the moment, does not mean I've packed away my TdM!! :-) __________________ "We don't see things as they are, we see things as we are." (Anais Nin)

23-12-2005	Ask a Professional Tarot Reader Top #45

Kissa Citizen Join Date: 01 Feb 2002 Location: Suomi Posts: 3,516	I love your signature, fulgour i just ordered a Convos. been lurking it for ages, now it is such a cheap deck in france, i placed an order on amazon and just stuck it in with... i'll tell you how i like it. kissa __________________ "Give up defining yourself - to yourself or to others. You won’t die. You will come to life." E. Tolle

21-02-2006	Ask a Professional Tarot Reader Top #47

catlin Citizen Join Date: 06 Aug 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 4,591	Got my Convos and 2 things struck me: 1) Does anybody know why the back of the cards is just this grey graphic? I think it does not match the pictures on the cards. 2) Why is a swan on the 4 of coins? Surely not because it also starts with an S like Spalinger's name? It is the only animal depicted on the Minors.

06-12-2005	Ask a Professional Tarot Reader Top #42

catlin Citizen Join Date: 06 Aug 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 4,591	Hm, I am still using the Convos and try to see the back of the card according to Fulgour's explanation. However, I still wish there were a more matching pattern on the back.

22-02-2006	Ask a Professional Tarot Reader Top #48

Fulgour Citizen Join Date: 10 Jun 2004 Location: slumbrin in the windrows of the hours... Posts: 7,828	Thank You! I received today from Switzerland a very special gift. And though there is so much more that might be said my feeling is that I must post but these few words... not to withold anything~ but for the sake of privacy.

26-04-2006	Ask a Professional Tarot Reader Top #49

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