Neo-pythagorism and Tarot : Alain Bougearel's theory

Hi,

The "Journal de demain" has published an essay of mine relative to the possible link between neo-pythagorism and the 78 cards of the Tarot :
22+16(4x4)+40(4x10)=78

http://www.lejournaldedemain.com/article.php3?id_article=736

Alain

Wonderful, Alain. Thank you.

Silvia

I know this geometrical ordering of the numbers of trumps, courts and pips for a wile, and consider it a very interting theory.

My question is this: Can there any mathematical resources be named for the presence, discussion and evaluation of this geometric figure, its substructures, and its neo-pythagorean background in the 14th and 15th century?

And is there any historical connection that could be offered to show that such a relation could have any evidence in these times?

Since I am reasearching the problem of the "22" trumps myself right now intensly, I would be very interested...

Yatima

Yatima said:

I know this geometrical ordering of the numbers of trumps, courts and pips for a wile, and consider it a very interting theory.

My question is this: Can there any mathematical resources be named for the presence, discussion and evaluation of this geometric figure, its substructures, and its neo-pythagorean background in the 14th and 15th century?

And is there any historical connection that could be offered to show that such a relation could have any evidence in these times?

Since I am reasearching the problem of the "22" trumps myself right now intensly, I would be very interested...

Yatima

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Hi,

The answer is that each element (triangular, square, pyramidal numbers) of the arithmological structure is known since at least the XIth-XIIth centuries the West and is present in the hellenical tradition of Byzantium.
Now, the complete structure is known since Nicomaque of Gerase (II century)(Alexandrian civilisation ) and his followers .
The only historical connections I've found are :
-presence of the Basileus of Byzantium in Milano in the years 1424-25
-Congress of Ferare-Firenze of 1438-39
-arrival in Northen Italy of Byzantium scholars and foundation of the Florentine Academy.



Alain
Alain

Ptolemy and the 78

Hi,

The neo-pythagorean disposition of the 78 as shown in the Almagest of Ptolemy :
http://www.dudleyobservatory.org/Logo/Ptolomey.jpg

Alain

Pythagoras' Tablet and Raphael

Link :

http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/grou....com/group/tarotl/lst?&.dir=/&.src=gr&.view=t

Alain

About Ptolemy

The relation between Plolemy and ancient neo-pythagorism is :
Théon de Smyrne

http://www-gap.dcs.st-and.ac.
uk/~history/Mathematicians/Theon_of_Smyrna.html

Information relative to Ptolemy at :
http://www-gap.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Mathematicians/Ptolemy.html

Data relatives to the publication of Ptolemy's works at :
http://www.ibiblio.org/expo/vatican.
exhibit/exhibit/d-mathematics/Ptolemy_geo.html

Links to study

1)Close to Cardinal Bessarion : Rhosos
The Ptolemy of Rhosos :
http://www.er.uqam.ca/nobel/r14310/Ptolemy/Rhosos.html

2)You can see an arithmological disposition of the number 10 and the
number 16 at :
http://www.sciences-en
ligne.com/momo/chronomath/chrono1/Nicomaque.html


3)the Ptolemé of Raphael.

(Remember Timoteo Viti and Boiardo...)

http://www.er.uqam.ca/nobel/r14310/Ptolemy/Raphael/30-40.html

Alain

Re: Links to study

2)You can see an arithmological disposition of the number 10 and the
number 16 at :
http://www.sciences-en
ligne.com/momo/chronomath/chrono1/Nicomaque.html

Right link

http://www.sciences-en-ligne.com/momo/chronomath/chrono1/Nicomaque.html

Re: Links to study

I wrote :

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3)the Ptolemé of Raphael.

(Remember Timoteo Viti and Boiardo...)

http://www.er.uqam.ca/nobel/r14310/Ptolemy/Raphael/30-40.html

Right link :

http://www.er.uqam.ca/nobel/r14310/Ptolemy/Raphael/19-22.html

Note n°20


Alain