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Green Boxes, Card Backs, and Hexagram Styles


I have 2 large Thoth decks in identical green boxes,
both boxes having the same markings by US Games.

My question concerns the backs of the cards and the
'unicursal hexagram' cards, and also the dreaded hue.

Click on to View: Two Card Backs & Hexagram Styles

The back with the small white border has good colours,
while the other is from a deck with the 'greenish' tinge.

Can someone helpfully explain why there's a difference?

And too~ can anyone clarify what (if any) differences
there are between these Weiser & US Games versions:

Red Wheel-Weiser
ISBN 0877284520

US Games Systems
ISBN 0913866156

Both ISBNs are from large (green box) Thoth decks.

Thanks!
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As far as I know the only difference is 'old' and 'new'.

The greenies are now out of print. All new decks have back borders and better colours. If they have the hex it is now the rainbow one.

I don't think there is any diference between the USG and the Weiser. (or the muller, for that matter) Same deck in different boxes.

But I am not certain of this. I do not have all the different editions to compare and contrast.
But I do know that greenies are no longer sold new. But they are pretty cheap on ebay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fulgour
And too~ can anyone clarify what (if any) differences
there are between these Weiser & US Games versions
I don't think there is a difference between the Weiser and US Games versions because AGMuller print both decks. I think Weiser and US Games just handle packaging and distribution of the same deck of cards.
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Readers of this thread might also be interested in the "Thoth - List of Editions" thread:

http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?t=35594
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Many Thanks!


Quote:
Originally Posted by Lillie
As far as I know the only difference is 'old' and 'new'.
The 'newest' difference is finding myself here with 'old friends!'
Everyone has been very encouraging, and helpful with details.

I found a new old Weiser for $12.99 (~ 7.42 ~) and decided it
couldn't hurt to order it and see what shows up...these may all
now be relics the way the market behaves. I'll post my findings.
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Cool


A table of various editions and notes can be found at http://www.tarotgarden.com/library/decks/thothtable.php
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As has already been mentioned, the one with ISBN 0877284520 is an older version, now oop. The other, ISBN 0913866156, is the most recent US Games edition. It has "AG Muller" stamped in the margin on the back. Weiser's latest version of the same deck is exactly the same as US Games' except it doesn't have "AG Muller" on it (see below).

-fof

Edit To Add: Well, I have to correct myself. Was just in Hastings and looked at a large Weiser Thoth deck. It now has "AGMuller" stamped on it as well.
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Question White Box A


Tarot Garden Library: Thoth Comparison Table
http://www.tarotgarden.com/library/decks/thothtable.php

"White Box A" Published by Samuel Weiser (1969?)

A friend has written to ask:
"Is there an IBSN on this box and does the deck have a blank card?"

As I recall, ISBNs did not become standard
until the early to mid 1970s...worth noting.

*** Updated ***

Weiser Books (September 1976)
ISBN: 087728444X

The seller dates it at 1983 saying:
Deck of 78 cards in white case with
red and black printing, red design.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fulgour
I have 2 large green box Thoths can anyone clarify what (if any) differences
there are between these Weiser & US Games versions:

Red Wheel-Weiser
ISBN 0877284520

US Games Systems
ISBN 0913866156

Both ISBNs are from large (green box) Thoth decks.

Thanks!

Well Fulgour can this be any more confusing, i have this old large greenie Thoth with the same ISBN 0913866156 but my box was the White OTO box, but your's is the green box i know that Weiser had put theirs in the same White OTO like mine.
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Hi Dean! Looking at your scan, and considering size,
relative to the box the type-size isn't telling me "large"
cards here... but with this deck I think until you have
the cards in your hands, who knows what they'll be?

My "large" Weiser Thoth came, and it's the borderless
back with red hexagram card. The colours are great.
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