WhiteRaven
Umbrae said:Reprise:
Ususally The Magician is seen as a card of control. He brought control to the Relationship? He Feels control? Let’s dig deeper. Here, hold the flashlight while I explore.
The Magician is something Person 2 is dragging around. Why? Usually it’s because somewhere just before, they felt stepped on, used abused and tossed out. They got hurt. And they were ‘innocent’. “If he/whe/it only understood me! I tried and they got walked over me and broke my heart! And I’ll never ever ever let that happen again. I’m in control now…” The problem is that The Magician stands alone.
The 5 of Pentacles in the Needs/Wants/Now area. Okay…so the LWB talks about poverty but we are discussing feelings. Thinking of Fives as Givurah, this card, in this space, is about self induced punishment. It’s a dark card here – unresolved issues of the past would be strongly indicated IMHO.
The 5 of Pentacles also represents lonliness and a sense of loss which touches the emotional side of things. I used the RWS deck btw, and I'm referring to the book "Tarot for Beginners" by P.Scott Hollander...I'm trying to wipe what I know of this relationship and the people involved OUT of my mind...Bottom line...it's not a "happy" card and what I'm understanding is that Person 2 is absolutely miserable because of self infliction? Taking control of a situation (her decisions and life) and throwing it into something that NOW, she feels lost and alone and not understood?
Now let’s start putting this together.
Look at Person 1 & 2’s root cards. 1 was indecision, with a necessity to choose and a feeling that one had to do so quickly (perhaps a fear element). “Did I choose correctly?” is their yoke.
Person 2 emotionally distant, controlling or self willed attitudes were a perfect match – they balanced.
I don't understand where you see a balance.
One is in it because they jumped too fast, the other is in it for the sense of being able to control her own life....I don't see balance. I'm trying to see how you are intertwining the cards of person 1 and person 2 here to create what is "balance". Unless you are taking say person 2's Magician and balancing it with the Emperor and not referring to Person 1 at all at this point.
They balance on The Emperor. Now The Emperor one half of an entity. The Emperor needs the Empress. The Emperor is tired of being a warrior; he cannot be a warrior and rule. He is about disciplining his baser desires.
The Emperor ‘binds’ the two well. He is also about metaphorically ‘slowing down’. Good for both Persons 1 & 2.
Where do you get the connection that it is good for person 2 to slow down?
You know how most of us read from left to right? We number from left to right? Change that.
When do we apply this? From the start?
Here. When reading across – read from the Strong Card. Outside row only.
Person One is the 3 of Cups. Cool card. Well Person 1 knows she wants to know she chose right…. Between you and I that’s a need. She’s gotta be able to dance. We have a harvest festival, a Martyr, and The World.
Here, the Tarot tells us we have a balance. So let’s let it sit for a bit and we’ll come back to it. It won’t go anywere, it’ll wait.
Again...I don't see what "balance" you are referring to and how you determine that there is one...a balance with what? with who? Person 2? or a balance with the cards 3 of Cups and The World?
Here I where it gets fun. And I have to color these cards a bit.
I'm still way up there...I'm confused in a very big way.
We have the penitent as Person 1. It’s like Person 2 was contagious.
Because of the Magician? (Self control)..and Person 2 kept her distance so not to be hurt again? But again, this is part of the Magician and her self control...yes? no?...sigh
The emotion crosses over. 8 lies on Hod, and swords are intellect. This is a card of thinking gone awry – thinking that has gone out of balance. Here is delusion – but because of the timeline (Future/Expected Outcome) this card serves as a warning.
So this ties into card #1 for Person 1 (VII of Cups) yes?
The 2 of Swords. I love this card. It’s so deep. There is a sense of mastery to this card, as a balance for the 8 of Swords it’s wonderful and scary. There is a satisfaction from Person 2 that they were indeed contagious, not from a maliciousness on their part but from a misunderstanding of the true potential of love.
Wouldn't that tie into the 5 of Pentacles....Person 2 feels lonely yet needs to be alone to heal so she can receive true love, perhaps not with Person 1 but with someone else in the future?
They balance off the balance of Justice – they both believe and feel they got what they deserved.
I'm lost...this Raven is totally hanging in a tree upside down...
Look at those last three cards – if Person 2 uses their mastery with the swords to help rescue Person 1 – If Person 2 realized what they have done/are doing to Person 2…and they can’t be told…they wear a blind fold (hey – it covers their ears…).
I'm slightly confused here....just a tad..ahem...you are saying that Person 1 is a victim of Person 2's control (magician) of her own life? I'm trying to see where you are taking referrence yet all I am getting is alot of crossing this way and that way. Because I'm pulling the control thing from way up top at the Magician?