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So, you are saying that the dung beetle relations to "Sun at Midnight = Pisces psychologically. Okay.
Not exactly , more the way I wrote it ; has SIMILARITIES to SOME psychological states 'Pisces type people' CAN find find themselves in. Pisces psychology itself has a muc much larger range than JUST dung beetle sun at midnight.
"I am the walrus, koo-koo-ki-choo"? Sorry. I don't buy it--because which, after all, is caterpillar/butterfly? The night or the moon? I only do zen thinking every other month.
Then you are in trouble and going to fins this difficult to comprehend. Lets de-Zen it.
If something, one viewing, or on one day, or when you are in a certain state of consciousness looks like a mountain .... and then it doesnt the next day, one can just get caught up in a dualistic argument ( like, is it the night, Moon, or modnight or a crab or a beetle .... its gotta be obne or the other ! ) .... or, one can think, maybe I am looking at something bigger here and my normal senses cant really comprehend it. I am just seeing parts of it and thinking that is he whole.
Do you know the tale of the men in the dark room wit an elephant ? Each field or column of correspondence is a different elephant (or some strange and unusual animal ), and particularly that field represented in Tarot by the Moon card ( because the very nature of the card itself is , amongst other things, about illusion, shifting images, reflections, underworld journeys, etc. ). Where the different men are feeling a trunk, the feet. the skin, one sees a great eye, they are all coming to different conclusions. Eventually, they put all the info together (or the light comes on ) and they work it out.
All the symbols are the parts, not the thing itself. The thing itself may be just as exotic and unknown as an elephant was to those men in the room, especially if they were not 'well travelled'. Many people I know would have been lost after the first sentence of this conversation, posts back. Look at the boards in UTC or something, people dont want to read tarot like this. They want to know what the Moon means because it came up when they asked the cards if their boyfriend still really likes them, and similar issues.
Context seems to be all--to me, Anubis is part of the underworld, met by the dead at the weighing of hearts. He is the psychopomp of that land. But I totally get that the Moon card is all about "creatures of the night" including bats, owls and wolves/dogs, therefore Anubis. So, okay. I get that it goes with the card and Pisces psychology.
Especially because in this case ...... its on that card ! An Anubis figure could be on the Death card too, but there it would have more of a Scorpio association. THis is totally in sync with the Egyptian use, by the way. Versions of Anubis meaning different things and different qualities are in different temples, same as the other Gods like Horus and Isis. But they are in 'fields' of similar energy, they do interpenetrate a bit, but also have divisions. So , for example , Anubis could relate to different areas that have to do with associations to the underworld, but he wouldnt be used in 'fields' of 'generation' of childbirth or fertility etc.
Nice of him to give that tip of a hat to the fishes
Yes, wasnt it. As many tarot deck makers just show lunar symbolism and dont even but a pisces symbol on the card.
Okay, look. If you put a Scarab on the card, or a crayfish, a reader is going to look at the Moon card and say "Cancer the crab!" Because they all know that Cancer is ruled by the moon and there are those symbols that say "Cancer. "
So, if the card is, instead, about all the midnight psychology and back-of-the-head (all cool stuff), then why not give it those elements and forego any associations to Cancer the crab? Likewise, if it's about Pisces, why not throw in a fish? --if the card is NOT assigned to Cancer, why muddy the waters with Cancerian iconography? Even if it *can* be related if we do certain complicated yoga poses?
Okay ... look ! ... try this bit again
"It takes it place as it is attributed to it ... but dont make the mistake that the card is about Pisces, just like it isnt just about the Moon, or the dark Moon. These are a range of associations used to describe an an energy / process.
Its a bit like the finger pointing to the Moon ..... the finger or indicators are not the thing itself . They all come together to indicate the thing, not to substitute it."
IE. A card, especially a Trump isnt about just one thing, a title, an astrological association, etc. All the symbols on the Emperor card dont just mean 'Emperor' they mean a range of things in that field.
I mean it would be nice to be able to explain the deeper esoteric meanings tarot has come to have for some people, in a simple one line definitive statement ... but it doesnt work like that. One can choose deep and esoteric, and go there, or choose surface and exoteric and swim on the surface . Mostly that will work ... the Moon card does create a bit of an 'undertow' though .... dragging deep down to the depths, one can just paddle on
http://www.timosart.com/GameArt/GoW_A_Vortex01.jpg
Swims in the depths; her song can lure ships to wreck and men to drown...sounds pretty close to that Piscean psychology you outlined when you described those Piscean friends, drug addiction included. And, quite literally, she's half fish. So she at least waves the flag of being "something fishy." Honestly, I really don't care if it's a mermaid or a trout or a sign that say "Gone fishing'" so long as the card has something that says "oh, by the way, my astrological sign is Pisces, not Cancer...never mind the Beetle/Crayfish there, that relates to the fish too, but it's going to take a college degree and lots of googling to explain."
Great ! ..... I retract and affirm, yes, it would be a good symbol ... better than writing your last sentence across the bottom of the card
I mean, I get the whole secret society thing where if you haven't gone through the hazings and know the secret handshakes you shouldn't be reading the cards because they're supposed to be "members only!" But is it too much to ask for a fish or two in AS promenade a position as the Cancer/Moon iconography just to ease confusion?
Not only 'members' , thats just on that level. Deeper connections can be made by anyone who has studied the background subjects in hermetics. But not exoteric readers who play on the surface.
You dont need a college degree either . One can start here
http://www.hermetics.org/pdf/magic/Agrippa1.pdf
(... even just the first part of the first paragraph )