The Temperament Experiment #4

And last but not least...


Temperament #4


Positives: Ambitious, Dynamic, Decisive, Independent.

Negatives: Impulsive, Short-Tempered, Proud, Dictatorial

Melanchollic said:

And last but not least...


Temperament #4


Positives: Ambitious, Dynamic, Decisive, Independent.

Negatives: Impulsive, Short-Tempered, Proud, Dictatorial

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AT LAST! One that fits! This is Wants/Batons! No if's, and's or buts!

Batons

Comments? Critiques?

Hi Everyone,

Thanks for joining in.

General comments, etc., about this poll can be found and posted on the main thread, here:

http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?t=83952


Specific comments about this particular temperament can of course be posted right here.


Thanks,

Mel

Batons!

This could fit Swords.

And so?

Now you need a thread for some sort of comprehensive conclusion. I give mine here. If the idea was to verify the relationship of 4 humors with the 4 suits, I'd say that the Sanguine/Cups and the Choleric/Wands were a fair match.

I had to think about the Swords/Melancholic and the Disks/Phlegmatic matchups, but I seem to have come to the same conclusion about them that most respondents did. So I guess these matches were valid, but only just.

For one thing, I could match the Cups/Wands with the positive elements of the temperment descriptions, whereas with the Swords/Disks I had to look more to the negative elements to find a match--usually by a process of elimination. For a fact, though, even the positive elements of the temperment descriptions for the Swords/Disks groups were not particularly appealing.

The Swords have been defined as the communication suit, and what they often communicate in RWS is bad news. So, I don't think they suffer too much under the melancholiac heading. The Disks, however, are really short-changed: no cathedral builders here and no Burbanks. They're all too dull.

Anyone that already presumes the most written correlations derived from the GD of fire and batons will very likely vote accordingly, as commonly described 'fire' like characteristics are used as descriptors.

Let's look at those descriptions first, however:All of those positives could equally apply, in my view, to the four suits, simply in different fields of life. For example, an ambitious, dynamic, decisive and independent person focussed on the financial world is likely to reflect a Coin card. Conversely and equally for the negative traits, and as an example those traits applied within the context of a church or religious retreat setting may very well reflect a Cup card.

The poll, then, shows very much how the current dominant views of authors is reflected amongst us, and not whether or not the suits themselves reflect those characteristic traits.