ravenest
More curious .... when I do my wacky ravenest thingo (my theory that decanic images are virtually useless, the real influences in the decans came from the age of astrology when stars, were used as individual components of a decan, as opposed to asterisms which can span 3 decans ... and the planetary associations are mere 'numeration' )
There seems to be two influences about this card in the 3rd decan of Taurus ... one of gain, and one of loss.
What's in the sky there ? .... the two horns , or, more correctly , two stars that represent the ends of the horn of the bull. THE two significant stars in that decan ; Al Hecka and El Nath.
Al Hecka seems to go with 'Failure' and the G.D / R.W. title :
According to Ptolemy it is of the nature of Mars, but Alvidas suggests that of Mercury and Saturn conjoined. It gives violence, male violence and danger of accidents.
With Sun: Suspicious, reserved, studious, unfavourable for health and especially for the lungs, aptitude for military enterprise and stratagems but danger of deceit and ambushes.
With Moon: Quarrels, evil habits and company, depravity.
With Mercury: Hasty temper, selfishness, greed, dissipation, legal and business troubles, poor health, domestic troubles and separation from wife or children, low companions, loss of wealth and poverty.
With Venus: Unfortunate, low companions, bad environment.
With Mars: Evil companions, bad habits, sex troubles, and afflictions of a Mars-Venus type.
With Jupiter: Hypocrisy, dissipation, business losses and disgrace.
With Saturn: Uncontrolled passions, drink, debauchery, perverted genius, clever writer of undesirable literature, luxurious surroundings but little wealth, isolated or confined at end of life, domestic unhappiness, accidents if Mars is also afflicting.
With Uranus: Legal difficulties, trouble through occultism, danger of imprisonment but help from friends, unfavourable for love and marriage, parental disharmony, little wealth, death from an accident.
With Neptune: Accidents, secret enemies, great psychic powers, wife may be sickly or die soon after marriage, favourable for gain but many losses in latter part of life, sudden troubles of a Mars nature.
[ Fixed Stars and Constellations in Astrology, Vivian E. Robson, 1923 p 125 - 126 .]
Whereas El Nath suggests gain success and money:
With Sun: Ecclesiastical preferment, honour through science, religion or philosophy.
With Moon: Quarrels with questionable associates, business success, environment detrimental owing to wife, partner or relative.
With Mercury: Favour of superiors, but enmity of colleagues, rises to high position or changes vocation, favourable for gain, but many small losses, domestic expenses, often obliged to support an invalid.
With Venus: Favourable for gain, enemies who are powerless to injure.
With Mars: Good lawyer, speaker, and debater, quick-witted.
With Jupiter: Success in legal or ecclesiastical affairs, favourable for gain and inheritance.
With Saturn: Cautious, thoughtful, bad-tempered, accumulates money, favourable for domestic affairs, gain through relatives, may receive start in life through a legacy.
With Uranus: Great mental energy and force of character, weak body, original and practical ideas, occult interests, but material aims, late success, favourable for domestic affairs, death in middle age.
With Neptune: Active in mind and body, vacillating, some physical defect, occult interests, may make discoveries in medicine, domestic disharmony owing to peculiar matrimonial ideas, may become famous, death in middle age.
[Fixed Stars and Constellations in Astrology, Vivian E. Robson, 1923, p. 164 - 165.]
There seems to be two influences about this card in the 3rd decan of Taurus ... one of gain, and one of loss.
What's in the sky there ? .... the two horns , or, more correctly , two stars that represent the ends of the horn of the bull. THE two significant stars in that decan ; Al Hecka and El Nath.
Al Hecka seems to go with 'Failure' and the G.D / R.W. title :
According to Ptolemy it is of the nature of Mars, but Alvidas suggests that of Mercury and Saturn conjoined. It gives violence, male violence and danger of accidents.
With Sun: Suspicious, reserved, studious, unfavourable for health and especially for the lungs, aptitude for military enterprise and stratagems but danger of deceit and ambushes.
With Moon: Quarrels, evil habits and company, depravity.
With Mercury: Hasty temper, selfishness, greed, dissipation, legal and business troubles, poor health, domestic troubles and separation from wife or children, low companions, loss of wealth and poverty.
With Venus: Unfortunate, low companions, bad environment.
With Mars: Evil companions, bad habits, sex troubles, and afflictions of a Mars-Venus type.
With Jupiter: Hypocrisy, dissipation, business losses and disgrace.
With Saturn: Uncontrolled passions, drink, debauchery, perverted genius, clever writer of undesirable literature, luxurious surroundings but little wealth, isolated or confined at end of life, domestic unhappiness, accidents if Mars is also afflicting.
With Uranus: Legal difficulties, trouble through occultism, danger of imprisonment but help from friends, unfavourable for love and marriage, parental disharmony, little wealth, death from an accident.
With Neptune: Accidents, secret enemies, great psychic powers, wife may be sickly or die soon after marriage, favourable for gain but many losses in latter part of life, sudden troubles of a Mars nature.
[ Fixed Stars and Constellations in Astrology, Vivian E. Robson, 1923 p 125 - 126 .]
Whereas El Nath suggests gain success and money:
With Sun: Ecclesiastical preferment, honour through science, religion or philosophy.
With Moon: Quarrels with questionable associates, business success, environment detrimental owing to wife, partner or relative.
With Mercury: Favour of superiors, but enmity of colleagues, rises to high position or changes vocation, favourable for gain, but many small losses, domestic expenses, often obliged to support an invalid.
With Venus: Favourable for gain, enemies who are powerless to injure.
With Mars: Good lawyer, speaker, and debater, quick-witted.
With Jupiter: Success in legal or ecclesiastical affairs, favourable for gain and inheritance.
With Saturn: Cautious, thoughtful, bad-tempered, accumulates money, favourable for domestic affairs, gain through relatives, may receive start in life through a legacy.
With Uranus: Great mental energy and force of character, weak body, original and practical ideas, occult interests, but material aims, late success, favourable for domestic affairs, death in middle age.
With Neptune: Active in mind and body, vacillating, some physical defect, occult interests, may make discoveries in medicine, domestic disharmony owing to peculiar matrimonial ideas, may become famous, death in middle age.
[Fixed Stars and Constellations in Astrology, Vivian E. Robson, 1923, p. 164 - 165.]