Phoenix_Down
I was wondering what you guys made of the queen of cups as depicted in the rider-waite...
-The cup she holds is unique within the suit of cups. No other card variates on the design of the cup so strongly; the cups in the 6 are described sometimes as oversized, and the king holds a scepter that is very cup-like in addition to the regular cup.
-The cup is lidded. It actually looks more like an urn than a cup.
-The cup is very elaborate when compared with the more simple cups on the other cards. On the two arms of the card you could almost say it was bladed.
-Rather than holding it between the stem and the bowl, like all the cups are held when they are being held (save the Ace,) she holds it with both hands. I get the impression that if she were to try to hold it one-handed from below (like the ace), it would fall.
-Her facial expression seems sad in the universal waite, or even angry in the original Rider-Waite.
-She sits before the ocean, but her concentration is fixed on the cup she holds.
-Many of you may have noticed, that none of the Queens and Kings in the deck have matching crowns. The design of the crown is probably a hint as to the meaning of the card.
-Her feet are crossed at the heel. Only one foot is showing.
-The clasp of her cloak... is it a rose?
-What at first appear to be cherubs on the throne, are actually mer-children. Two look down on her, and the third is crawling out of the ocean.
Conclusions I have made: With all the focus on the cup, the queen is investing a lot of energy into her emotions, or the vessel of her emotions, and she is not happy. The queen strikes me as being depressed or co-dependant. With the water theme of the deck, this may suggest alcoholism.
If the cup is an urn, then the Queen is here to spread ashes of a loved one out to sea. She has not, and instead sits and refuses to let go. The queen may be someone that needs to let go. In any event, the queen seems to have a lot of weight on her shoulders, but won't let go.
-The cup she holds is unique within the suit of cups. No other card variates on the design of the cup so strongly; the cups in the 6 are described sometimes as oversized, and the king holds a scepter that is very cup-like in addition to the regular cup.
-The cup is lidded. It actually looks more like an urn than a cup.
-The cup is very elaborate when compared with the more simple cups on the other cards. On the two arms of the card you could almost say it was bladed.
-Rather than holding it between the stem and the bowl, like all the cups are held when they are being held (save the Ace,) she holds it with both hands. I get the impression that if she were to try to hold it one-handed from below (like the ace), it would fall.
-Her facial expression seems sad in the universal waite, or even angry in the original Rider-Waite.
-She sits before the ocean, but her concentration is fixed on the cup she holds.
-Many of you may have noticed, that none of the Queens and Kings in the deck have matching crowns. The design of the crown is probably a hint as to the meaning of the card.
-Her feet are crossed at the heel. Only one foot is showing.
-The clasp of her cloak... is it a rose?
-What at first appear to be cherubs on the throne, are actually mer-children. Two look down on her, and the third is crawling out of the ocean.
Conclusions I have made: With all the focus on the cup, the queen is investing a lot of energy into her emotions, or the vessel of her emotions, and she is not happy. The queen strikes me as being depressed or co-dependant. With the water theme of the deck, this may suggest alcoholism.
If the cup is an urn, then the Queen is here to spread ashes of a loved one out to sea. She has not, and instead sits and refuses to let go. The queen may be someone that needs to let go. In any event, the queen seems to have a lot of weight on her shoulders, but won't let go.