nisaba
<grin> It sounds far more debauched than that to an Australian ear, but I was far too much of a lady to say anything. I was busy averting my eyes and clutching a lace handkerchief soaked in perfume to my nose.Scion said:
How long before you broke the seal....
Major Tom
Scion said:
nisaba said:
It is more debauched than that to an American ear too. Ask anyone from San Diego about going to see a dog-n-pony show just over the border in Tijuana.Back to topic - I did my first readings for pay within three months of learning back in 1982. I didn't call myself professional until 20 years later.
Baroli
We were having this discussion out in San Fran at one of the "after hours bar lectures" at BATS. Technically, and I do mean this technically, the minute you take money for a reading you have crossed the bridge to professionalism. That said, do I think that is the ONLY thing that makes a person professional? Oh hell no, how you perceive yourself and how the client perceives you is important as well. I have been reading for 40 years now. Thirty of those I have taken money for, I would say of the 30 years, 25 of them have been professional readings, doing gigs, parties, private readings, etc.
*Baroli waves at Scion and Major Tom and shouts out a howdy to both.
*Baroli waves at Scion and Major Tom and shouts out a howdy to both.
214red
am enjoying the responses, its interesting to know some people take payment before they say they are professional.
saying that i do hobbies and i might take payment for what i create but i wouldnt call myself a professional in that craft.
Kat- i agree that sometimes you want to keep things a hobbie rather then make it a job, you enjoy hobbies and do them for fun, a job you do because you have to (even though i love mine).
i am saddened to see so much snobbery in tarot, but i guess it happens in everything
I would say professional for tarot, but not in my mediumship yet, if i do non-tarot readings i like the fact if i feel i didnt give a good enough reading (by my own benchmark) i dont take payment. I like the fact i dont have any pressure in non-tarot readings, it helps me relax and get into the right frame of mind which i dont need for tarot.
saying that i do hobbies and i might take payment for what i create but i wouldnt call myself a professional in that craft.
Kat- i agree that sometimes you want to keep things a hobbie rather then make it a job, you enjoy hobbies and do them for fun, a job you do because you have to (even though i love mine).
i am saddened to see so much snobbery in tarot, but i guess it happens in everything
I would say professional for tarot, but not in my mediumship yet, if i do non-tarot readings i like the fact if i feel i didnt give a good enough reading (by my own benchmark) i dont take payment. I like the fact i dont have any pressure in non-tarot readings, it helps me relax and get into the right frame of mind which i dont need for tarot.
thorhammer
Exactly!214red said:
In a way, when you do that it frees you to create more - it frees space, it clears the decks, it helps you let go of something you cherish so you can move on to bigger and better things. With readings, I think reading for others, for money or otherwise, helps to get energy moving through one's life so that more improvement can happen than otherwise might have.
What snobbery do you mean? Not trying to be confrontational, just curious214red said:
\m/ Kat
franniee
thorhammer said:
I do it because I want to too. I love tarot and I love reading and I went pro and found venues to read in because I wanted to read all sorts of people with all sorts of topics etc. Most of the time it is so much fun! Of course there are those days when the clients just drain you but for the most part I love it. It absolutely fascinates me! The more I read the more it engages me and that in and of itself is amazing. there are very few things I do that do that.
I feel uncomfortable with the pro label too but I don't like labels in general and I don't think one thing defines me.
In answer to the above question I did it much like Scion. I read and read and read and then people paid me - their idea not mine - then people called me and asked for readings..... then I decided I wanted to read more and more then one of my friends booked me for a party. I started to do parties and they were a blast! and I wanted more.... that's how it worked for me.
214red
thorhammer said:Exactly!
\m/ Kat
i think the snobbery i see is the psychic readers that look down on other readers, the mediums that sneer at psychics, the physical mediums who laugh at the mental mediums etc
yes i hold my hand up and say that originally when i started i thought psychic readings were the holy grail, but i realise i was very very wrong, there is a place for everyone.
i heard some of teachers sneer at mental mediums, and they are passing this down to people, its such a shame. same with some tarot people, especially people who have been doing this for yonks, some seem to look down on others (am not pointing at anyone just a general comment).
yesterday i was saddened by some comments i heard, i was disappointed that people on such a spiritual path can let their ego lead so much
214red
franniee said:I feel uncomfortable with the pro label too but I don't like labels in general and I don't think one thing defines me.
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i love this sentiment as i hate labels too
Baroli
214red said:
Well,...not for nothing, but you have snobbery in all types of professions from teaching to well, bricklaying for example. You're right I think, it is the ego that leads rather than gets out of the way.
Now I have a question,.... "what's doing it for yonks"???
Aerin
Baroli said:
yonks = ages (as in a very long time)
Seems to be a very UK expression according to http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-yon1.htm
It was all the rage when I was growing up.
