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Hey... we can't even be sure it ain't someone else behind that mask - never mind what's under that book!
...now as to the other faces... geez that's tempting
...now as to the other faces... geez that's tempting
well, definitely she has something in that right hand. Gripped like only a Papesse can grip it.le pendu said:What do you think... would YOU mess with this Popess?
She's probably got a gun under the book.
prudence said:So, *for sure* we are saying it is masks in this deck??
I could see that...I could see why a gun would be added.. Ah, the Papesse and her gun, how many lines were written thoughout the ages with that image in mind?le pendu said:Now the gun... that was surely a basic part of the design!
le pendu said:The Tarot of Jean Noblet is the oldest surviving TdM. It shares many qualities with the Jean Dodal deck which was published around 60 years later. Together, these decks typify iconography that tarot historian Thierry Depaulis labeled "TdM I", having many differences that seem older than the style commonly found in Nicolas Conver decks. There are also some wonderfully unique details found only in this deck.
Minervasaltar said:I have been comparing my Dodal, Noblet and Conver today (again), and the more I do this, the less I seem to agree with the TdM I (a.o. Noblet, Dodal) versus TdM II (a.o. Conver) devision. Personally, I see much more similarity between the Dodal and the Conver then between the Noblet and Dodal.
To me, the Noblet seems to be the Odd one Out.
There are so many details in which the Noblet seems unique. The most obvious is the facing directions on some cards (emperess, emperor, chariot, death). But also, the drawings on some cards deviate completely from the Dodal/Conver, like the bateleur, strength, death, temperance and the devil.
To me, these differences are at least as good a candidate to make a distinction than the blindfolded angel, de hands on le pendu, the faces on the devil and the face on the moon.
I guess it all depends on which criteria you take to group decks together (and divide them from other groups).
le pendu said:I'd love to discuss this. Maybe we can bring the topic back up again here:
http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?t=61489
prudence said:Thanks for posting, Rox. And most importantly thank you for your hand in getting this deck made.
And Robert!!! You did not say you helped in making the box! So modest. Well done keeping it all under wraps too, I would have had a hard time with such a secret.
hold on, I am wondering if this deck getting made has anything to do with that survey/poll from about a year ago, that was asking if there would be any interest in 78 card editions of certain historical decks?