Schiffer decks with NICE cardstock?

feynrir

Paraphrasing and embellishing an AT member's comment on a recent thread, Schiffer has become known for their sticky, ultra-laminated, thick-as-a-brick cardstock. The most famous example of this is in the popular Mary-El Tarot. (I personally have experienced only one Schiffer deck, the Silver Era Tarot, which suffered from this same cardstock. I found the cardstock a deal breaker and sold it on.)

Which Schiffer decks do NOT exhibit these qualities in their cardstock?

Thank you! :)
 

Alta

I think that I have only two of their decks.

Tarot of Sidhe: sticky glossy thick cards.

Sol Invictus: I think this was their first deck (maybe the Major Tom TdM was first, but close). The card stock is closer to normal (slightly stiff but flexible enough) and the finish, while glossy, is not ultra shiny or sticky. Printed in China.

If I discover that I have more, I'll add.
 

WhiteWolfy

I have the Cooks tarot and although it is still laminated (shiny) it appears the cardstock is thinner than their previous decks. If i compare the Cooks tarot which is a very recent deck to Tarot of the Sidhe which is an older deck the Cooks is thinner.
 

rwcarter

Bleu Cat, Tarot D: The Didactic Tarot and the Kabbalistic Tarot come immediately to mind.
 

Le Fanu

I'd hazard a guess and say they're all pretty much the same - certainly of the new releases. I have the Sol Invictus and it might be different now that Alta mentions it. I'd have to scrutinise it carefully.

Of all the Schiffer decks I have, they all have the thick glossy cardstock. I honestly don't mind anymore. Plus I'm of the opinion that if we winge too much (not that anyone was]), they may well - quite rightly - say well screw you tarotistas, let's stop producing decks, since the market is so unappreciative. They do get criticised about the cardstock. If we're not careful, it'll be one less publisher doing tarot.
 

gregory

Le Fanu said:
I'd hazard a guess and say they're all pretty much the same - certainly of the new releases. I have the Sol Invictus and it might be different now that Alta mentions it. I'd have to scrutinise it carefully.

Of all the Schiffer decks I have, they all have the thick glossy cardstock. I honestly don't mind anymore.
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Bleu Cat CERTAINLY doesn't. Nor does Kabbalistic Visions, as Rodney says. As I recall Tarot of Leaves doesn't. No time to get them all out just now, though.
 

feynrir

Le Fanu said:
I'd hazard a guess and say they're all pretty much the same - certainly of the new releases. I have the Sol Invictus and it might be different now that Alta mentions it. I'd have to scrutinise it carefully.

Of all the Schiffer decks I have, they all have the thick glossy cardstock. I honestly don't mind anymore. Plus I'm of the opinion that if we winge too much (not that anyone was]), they may well - quite rightly - say well screw you tarotistas, let's stop producing decks, since the market is so unappreciative. They do get criticised about the cardstock. If we're not careful, it'll be one less publisher doing tarot.
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Ah, I see. But haven't other publishers been able to change their cardstock according to demand? Even the Wild Unknown has been able to take into account reader feedback, and try to make adjustments to recent print runs. And that's an 'independent' deck.

I do feel a bit bad for asking a question like this, but it's an honest effort to find out more about the decks offered by Schiffer. They have a lot of cool products! But I find their cards kinda...unshufflable. :(

And thank you, everyone :)
 

gregory

I think publishers will take on board a serious issue like this. They like to make money, after all. And we know they CAN turn out classy card stock.
 

Miss Divine

Their cardstock has definitely changed since their first decks. Like someone else already mentioned, they are thinner now but still glossy. I think they shuffle great now and I hope they keep their current cardstock. But for some, no matter what changes, they always find something to complain about it not being good enough.

I've actually heard people now calling Schiffer's cardstock ''flimsy''. When it was thicker they complained.. Now since it's thinner and more flexible al of a sudden it's flimsy. Go figure!
 

Yelell

Le Fanu said:
Plus I'm of the opinion that if we winge too much (not that anyone was]), they may well - quite rightly - say well screw you tarotistas, let's stop producing decks, since the market is so unappreciative. They do get criticised about the cardstock. If we're not careful, it'll be one less publisher doing tarot.
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I have to say I don't know why it's so difficult. My dad's a gambler (I am not but I've tagged along.). Casinos have millions of cards - they shuffle well, look good, hold up well considering what they're put through, they don't stink of chemicals or stick together, they don't feel weird or have cardboard edges, or a gloss so heavy they put off a glare. And poker cards are not expensive either. I realize tarot cards are bigger generally, but I still don't see why there is such a problem.
 
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