HOLMES
in the jungain tarot they says that the first seperoith is pluto,
second is uranus, third is neptune, , fourth is jupiter, five is mars, six is sun, 7 is venus, 8. is mercury, 9, is moon, and ten is saturn.
how did they come up with these associations,
wouldn't one be the sun, two be the mercury,, three be venus.. four be moon, five be mars, six be jupiter, seven saturn, 8 urnus, nine neptune 10 pluto
or even reversed, pluto one,, and all the way to sun being ten (doens't sound right i know but what the hey )
in my qablistic tarot book four is jupiter, five mars, 6 six sun, 7 venus, 8. mecruey,,9. moon and but no astrologic associatons given for number one or ten , and three is sphere of zodiac.
so it is obivious the old qabalistic astrology associated with the golden dawn (assuming here )
didn't include the new planets as they were discovered yet..
so does these new planets, urasnus, pluto , and neptune, just take over that which wasn't defined before , (convient eh ten planets affecting our earth and and ten spheres of tree of life.)
don't forget the mythological planet x, would i seen a recent article that says if it was there,, it would be 3 trillion light years away ,, halway between here and the next solar system,, and it goes around our solar system far as it is .
wouldnt' that planet x be the daath ? ( question for that far to affect the planet pluto and neptune and therefore indirectly us, woudl it be reallly huge? or just small but big gravity field )
(when applied to the tarot ,, it becomes the same planet in each number minor suit, but in my qabalistic tarot it is differnt aspects of the elemntal zodiac,,
while in the jungian tarot it is just one zodia sign for one suit i.e. cup is cancer which no one likes that i showed eheh)
so while this is indirectly related to the tarot (well for me direclty)
here we are just talking about the spheres and astrological assocations ,,
here is why i am asking ,, THE CHANGES MADE eheh
"Certainly, there are a few surprises when the Minor Cards are attributed in this way. A good example is the Five of Wands, which has been called “Strife.” But when the Five of Wands is related to Mars in Aries, it is seen to be a card of tremendous creative energy, of originality and of courage. It is a card of independence, of success, of popularity, and of outgoing force which may be rapidly expended.
As another example one may cite the Three of Swords earlier considered to be a card of pain and sorrow. But as Neptune in Libra, the positive house of Venus, it becomes a card of art, of poetry, of refinement. It is a card of love, of friendship, and of good fortune. It is the flowing Neptunian force expressed through thought (Air/Swords).
These two cards, especially, are mentioned to underscore the fact that to relate the Tarot to the mainstream of Western esoteric thought requires that we discard some deeply-ingrained notions. "" done by robert wang three paragraphs,
second is uranus, third is neptune, , fourth is jupiter, five is mars, six is sun, 7 is venus, 8. is mercury, 9, is moon, and ten is saturn.
how did they come up with these associations,
wouldn't one be the sun, two be the mercury,, three be venus.. four be moon, five be mars, six be jupiter, seven saturn, 8 urnus, nine neptune 10 pluto
or even reversed, pluto one,, and all the way to sun being ten (doens't sound right i know but what the hey )
in my qablistic tarot book four is jupiter, five mars, 6 six sun, 7 venus, 8. mecruey,,9. moon and but no astrologic associatons given for number one or ten , and three is sphere of zodiac.
so it is obivious the old qabalistic astrology associated with the golden dawn (assuming here )
didn't include the new planets as they were discovered yet..
so does these new planets, urasnus, pluto , and neptune, just take over that which wasn't defined before , (convient eh ten planets affecting our earth and and ten spheres of tree of life.)
don't forget the mythological planet x, would i seen a recent article that says if it was there,, it would be 3 trillion light years away ,, halway between here and the next solar system,, and it goes around our solar system far as it is .
wouldnt' that planet x be the daath ? ( question for that far to affect the planet pluto and neptune and therefore indirectly us, woudl it be reallly huge? or just small but big gravity field )
(when applied to the tarot ,, it becomes the same planet in each number minor suit, but in my qabalistic tarot it is differnt aspects of the elemntal zodiac,,
while in the jungian tarot it is just one zodia sign for one suit i.e. cup is cancer which no one likes that i showed eheh)
so while this is indirectly related to the tarot (well for me direclty)
here we are just talking about the spheres and astrological assocations ,,
here is why i am asking ,, THE CHANGES MADE eheh
"Certainly, there are a few surprises when the Minor Cards are attributed in this way. A good example is the Five of Wands, which has been called “Strife.” But when the Five of Wands is related to Mars in Aries, it is seen to be a card of tremendous creative energy, of originality and of courage. It is a card of independence, of success, of popularity, and of outgoing force which may be rapidly expended.
As another example one may cite the Three of Swords earlier considered to be a card of pain and sorrow. But as Neptune in Libra, the positive house of Venus, it becomes a card of art, of poetry, of refinement. It is a card of love, of friendship, and of good fortune. It is the flowing Neptunian force expressed through thought (Air/Swords).
These two cards, especially, are mentioned to underscore the fact that to relate the Tarot to the mainstream of Western esoteric thought requires that we discard some deeply-ingrained notions. "" done by robert wang three paragraphs,