Rosanne
Thanks jmd! That was an enlightening article and I will re-focus through this subject. Great to find a path just before the New Year- I am grateful. ~Rosanne
Really? You surprise me Abrac. Don't you see this all around yourself and in yourself?Abrac said:The purpose for the working when it was originally written would have been to conjure the evil beings for the purpose of subjugating them for some higher purpose, though the logic behind conjuring an evil being for the purpose of doing good escapes me. *scratches head*
jmd said:Also, I am in disagreement with ravenest's statement regarding Steiner ("[...] Rudolf Stiener wrote some very interesting stuff about Lucifer [...] but later runs of their books and their own organisations have censored them [...]" see post 38 above for the full quote). I'm not sure which of the many lecture series by Steiner, or which books and papers, are being referred to, but his usage of the name 'Lucifer', and, for that matter, 'Ahriman', and 'Christ' have been retained and, importantly, republished. The terms are too clear to be altered, and need not be (on the contrary!).
jmd said:On that reading, Crowley is very much a satanist, who sees in the Satan a being who delivers humanity from the shackles of ignorance and makes of Man a God.
jmd said:This can be further evidenced by pointing to his bolded section on the next page, whereby he writes (p 194) that ""Obedience and faith to Him that liveth and triumpheth [...]" is your duty to your Holy Guardian Angel [...]" - in this case, given who he claims as his own HGA, his duty is obedience and faith in satan.
jmd said:I fail to see why, if one is very much into Crowley, this would not be taken on board as part of this man's chosen path.
jmd said:...one needs to of course choose one's own path, but also would suggest that for some, an insight into Crowley's inclinations is sufficient to ward off further study into his views and system - without needing to read his whole corpus, nor take on board his suggested lines of study.
Myrrha said:If you feel that you are doing your intellect justice by deciding on the basis of some scary words in a single quote taken out of context that you don't need to look into it further, well, OK.
--Myrrha
Rosanne said:..to aspire with increasing fervour and concentration, for six months, towards the obtaining of the Knowledge and Conversation of the Holy Guardian Angel. Once He has appeared, it is then necessary, first, to call forth the Four Great Princes of the Evil of the World; next, their eight sub-princes; and, lastly, the three hundred and sixteen servitors of these.[/i]
~Rosanne
kwaw said:Lola Daydream in The Wake World by Aleister Crowley.