@ Alta - very well said.
"magic rarely is"
@ Holmes
I see now i think (let me know if i am right ) that the soverign card and micheal being trapped there in the sketch refers to the casting of magick and getting angels to do your bidding eh ?.
+O+ You can keep guessing or you can Know. To Know takes work. You were given a link and I think that was a fair contribution from myself and you should do the rest. You fundamentally misunderstand the nature of the Temple of THEM which does not use protective circles, banishing rites, or possess a human-centred egotism that dares to dream it can control the forces of THEM that we represent. +O+
I don't go to facebook to view updates, for that takes us away from atf, i mean if a person posts an original here on the forum, they should in my opnion post the updated version as some of us don't like using facebook for that,, or possibly dont' have facebook. (lots of people around here have deactivated fb, or rarely go on ).
+O+ They may suit themselves just as I will. +O+
i looked up your website,, and saw chaos,, and that is something i dont' follow magicks trying to stay true to my spiritual path.
+O+ You are precisely the kind of individual who will never understand the Sinister because you expect immediate all-knowing results without ever doing anything to earn them. Like the Philosophers Stone - it will always be out of reach and you, as you say below, will only be able to appreciate this deck for its aesthetics. +O+
and so i am wasn't asking to be spoonfed,, i was just asking what was going on the original sketch,, it was obiviously more then just a few points of lines.
+O+ You don't think of yourself as asking to be spoonfed, but when given a link to ourcurrent to investigate for yourself you refused to read it and then came to ask me more questions you could have answered yourself. So, you're still asking to be spoonfed -in other words, food [for thought] was dumped on your plate but you refused to eat it yourself. THEM teaches the expansion of consciousness. It's not pleasant, it's not personal, it's business, and it's the only way. And there is no compromise. +O+
and i would prefer it that you post any updated versions here in the thread for it keeps the purpose of the thread you started here.
+O+ Would you?
+O+
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with that being said , i still look forward to updates on your thread that you make. "
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there are of course as you may know, two kinds of decks,, the tarot deck which is designed around the tarot system etc,, and the artist deck,, which is beutiful artwork usually based on a tarot design.
+O+ I don't think you understand Tarot very well to be honest, Holmes. I don't think you have researched its history, the history of magic, symbolism, or the historical background of the Judaic Mysticism from which it comes. Do you even know the culture that spawned the Tree before the Jewish Scribes to which it is later fitted and attributed spheres from its connection to the 32 names of YHVH? +O+
i would say there is the third kind of deck, the specalized deck like the enochian tarot as an example
as long as you keep the artwork beautiful (which it will be ) and true to the tarot 78 system (as close as you can ) so it reads well,, you will get a lot of people buying your deck who need not know anything about the system that you are eschewing in the deck.
+O+ So I should hide my beliefs under the rug and pass my Tarot off as a Golden Dawn replica that aspires to replicate all of the terrible flaws of monotheistic egotistic perception, arbitrary attributions now encased in stone as a dogma that refuses to acknowledge its own short-comings [like many humans], continue to mask and feed the world its own shallow consciousness enshrined in ego so that nothing changes and everything remains the stale same, creating individuals who do not know anything more than what is put in front of them, never exercise their own creativity, imagination, genius, madness or nous; commerically cheapen, falsely market, spiritually strip TENDRIL of its numinous meanings, its background of years of research, its potential to inspire people to think for themselves and evolve beyond the mushroom state - all to sell more copies of my Tarot? +O+
so what i am trying to say is though your deck is fashioned in your mind to those who know your system, or want to learn it..
there are those of us who will buy it just for the graphics/artwork,, and so in the imagery we need to be spoonfed a little bit to help us understand the deck.
+O+ And a little bit you have been. +O+
then later on when people asks questions about the deeper symbolism,, you could point them to the book..
+O+ Or a website... +O+
(even if you dont' write a book, you should have a book on your webpage , as from the war of minds sketch there will be a lot of symbolism in your deck so you may have to write the book of thoth but for the book of your religion/system).
that way you save yourself on answering little questions after the deck is released :
+O+ Oh yes. That worked really well when I pointed you in the right direction toward information, didn't it Holmes. LOL. +O+