Papus Interpretations

In his Tarot of the Bohemians (1889), Papus gives a numbers + suit system for interpreting the minors. His system doesn't seem to be terribly popular, but some of us find his numerology makes a lot of sense.

I've read in a couple of places that he gave up on this system of interpretation, and went back to using Etteilla's meanings for the cards. Does anybody know where that comes from? One of his other books, maybe? I haven't read anything by him except Tarot of the Bohemians, and don't know where to look for this.

I'm also wondering if this is the earliest written record of a numbers + suit system of reading, or does anybody know of an earlier one?

-shaveling

For all things Etteilla, James Revak's site...

http://www.villarevak.org/emw/emw_1.htm

There are Etteilla style tarots, if you are interested...samples and discussion

http://www.spiritone.com/~filipas/Masquerade/Reviews/historye.html

I don't know if I can answer your third question, but hope this above information helps.

By the way, there is a free online link to Papus' writing in Tarot of the Bohemians, as well

http://www.sacred-texts.com/tarot/

Best wishes!

Cerulean

The Tarot and Decanate associations of Papus:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/tarot/tob/img/25200.jpg

*

Docteur Gérard (Anaclet Vincent) Encausse
(1865 - 1916 e.v.)
http://www.hermetic.com/sabazius/papus.htm

Papus (aka Gérard Encausse) made many significant contributions
to modern Tarot through his dedicated and focused persistence in
searching for clarity, understanding, and advancing difficult areas.

Serving in the French medical corps during World War I, Papus was
stricken with tuberculosis and died on October 25, 1916 at age 51.

Links leading (eventually) to the
Astrology of Tarot by Papus:

http://www.tarot.org.il/

http://www.tarot.org.il/English/

Thank you!

This is an abundance of interesting and helpful information. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. Looks like I'll have to check out Le Tarot divinatoire. And while, I'm looking for it, there's all that reading on the websites. Something to keep me occupied through the snowy days.

And before I make a fool of myself in public

How do English speaking people pronounce "Papus"? I've only seen the name in print, and don't want to repeat my adolescent humiliation of pronouncing the "s" in Camus in front of the county librarian.

from: Against Rome, by C. M. Sphar, 2003

The example given is of Aemilius Papus, Lucius:

(Eye-mil'-yus Pah'-pus, Loo'-kee-us)

Consul in 225 who beat the Gauls at the Battle of Telamon.


http://chucksp1.tripod.com/characters.htm

Author's note on Pronunciation:

Many readers have a hard time pronouncing Roman names and keeping them all straight. This is complicated by the Roman custom of naming a son for his father: for example, the eldest son of Publius Cornelius Scipio has exactly the same name as his father, and this goes on for generation after generation. This listing should help. I’ve alphabetized characters by the name most used in the book. Where pronunciation might be a problem, I include the pronunciation in parentheses.

Thank you, Fulgour. My first three guesses would have been wrong. Now I'm ready to face any number of county librarians.
-shaveling