SolSionnach
I'm enjoying the conversation - don't have anything to add just yet!
MEL: ... The TdM also alters the standard 'Christ in Majesty' icon to avoid depicting him on a gaming card.
Bernice said:Mel, which trump are you relating this to?
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And... "the cracking open of limbs", this is 'purgatory?
I thought it was believed/imagined to be a half-way place 'twix Heaven & Hell. Didn't know that you got your limbs cracked open - what a painful place! (...and me born in a 'christian' country....)
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This 3 Batons: Seems like an 'honest' 3, trying to adjust properly to circumstances - shame it's so ill-dignified.
Bee
frelkins said:Well. . .hmm Mel to see Tower or Maison Dieu as purgatory offers a really interesting and different possibility of meaning for this card. Not the usual, "total disaster," but rather something more like "time of purification," or "redemptive suffering."
In this view, how would we distinguish it from le Pendu/Traitor?
frelkins said:what's your reaction to that, Mel?