bobbob
What exactly is it? Does it stand for something?
Thoth
Scion
Thoth is Greek name given to the Egyptian god Djehuty (also spelled Tehuti), the ibis-headed ruler of magic and learning. The Greeks equated with him with Hermes.
According to Egyptian legend, The Book of Thoth is a mythical tome buried in the Duat said to contain potent magical spells granting control of the elements, mastery of all the sciences, and knowledge of all languages human and otherwise. Any mortal who read it was punished terribly by the Gods, natch.
Scion
According to Egyptian legend, The Book of Thoth is a mythical tome buried in the Duat said to contain potent magical spells granting control of the elements, mastery of all the sciences, and knowledge of all languages human and otherwise. Any mortal who read it was punished terribly by the Gods, natch.
Scion
wizzle
More Thoth
Here's a link with bunches on Thoth, the god
http://www.crystalinks.com/thoth.html
Google on either Thoth or any of the other variations you see on the page, you'll get tons of material to ponder.
The Thoth deck has lots of references to the Egyptian gods if you know what you are looking at. My personal favorite is the god of silence, Harpokrates, who shows up in the Aeon card.
If you read the page I provided, you'll see that the god Thoth is about the equivalent of the god Hermes in the Greek pantheon. It is in this form that the god Thoth appears as the Magician in the deck, sporting the wings of Hermes on his feet and with Thoth's traditional sidekick, the ape.
Here's a link with bunches on Thoth, the god
http://www.crystalinks.com/thoth.html
Google on either Thoth or any of the other variations you see on the page, you'll get tons of material to ponder.
The Thoth deck has lots of references to the Egyptian gods if you know what you are looking at. My personal favorite is the god of silence, Harpokrates, who shows up in the Aeon card.
If you read the page I provided, you'll see that the god Thoth is about the equivalent of the god Hermes in the Greek pantheon. It is in this form that the god Thoth appears as the Magician in the deck, sporting the wings of Hermes on his feet and with Thoth's traditional sidekick, the ape.
John Meador
Ancient Egyptian Book of Thoth
Richard Jasnow, Karl-Theodor Zauzich
The Ancient Egyptian Book of Thoth
A Demotic Discourse on Knowledge and Pendant to the Classical Hermetica
First Edition and Commentary
2005. 2 parts. Text: Ca. 512 pages, clothbound
Figures: 73 plates, clothbound
ISBN 3-447-05082-9
ca. EUR 148,- (D) / sFr 250,-
http://www.harrassowitz.de/verlag/egypt/5082.htm
"The mortal human, known as "He Who Wishes To Learn," converses with Thoth, the god of wisdom, in a series of discussions."
http://www.jhunewsletter.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/03/31/424c51e2e5d7d
"I recited one spell from it: I charmed [phr ] the sky, the earth, the netherworld, the mountains, the waters. I discovered what all the birds of the sky and the fish of the deep and the beasts were saying."
http://zohery.com/culture_and_historical_linguisti.htm
Richard Jasnow, Karl-Theodor Zauzich
The Ancient Egyptian Book of Thoth
A Demotic Discourse on Knowledge and Pendant to the Classical Hermetica
First Edition and Commentary
2005. 2 parts. Text: Ca. 512 pages, clothbound
Figures: 73 plates, clothbound
ISBN 3-447-05082-9
ca. EUR 148,- (D) / sFr 250,-
http://www.harrassowitz.de/verlag/egypt/5082.htm
"The mortal human, known as "He Who Wishes To Learn," converses with Thoth, the god of wisdom, in a series of discussions."
http://www.jhunewsletter.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/03/31/424c51e2e5d7d
"I recited one spell from it: I charmed [phr ] the sky, the earth, the netherworld, the mountains, the waters. I discovered what all the birds of the sky and the fish of the deep and the beasts were saying."
http://zohery.com/culture_and_historical_linguisti.htm
f. silvestris
You'll get this better expressed in the course of your research, but, very baldly, both the Tarot and the Rosicrucian Book T were identified by occultists with the Book of Thoth, a symbolic book of all knowledge.
John Meador
steppin out for a Beltane walk
Jasnow and Zauzich: Ancient Egyptian Book of Thoth. A Demotic Discourse on Knowledge and Pendant to the Classical Hermetica. Leinen. 3447050829 / 3-447-05082-9
3447050829
Ancient Egyptian Book of Thoth. A Demotic Discourse on Knowledge and Pendant to the Classical Hermetica. (insgesamt 2 Bände / Teile) Leinen. 3447050829 / 3-447-05082-9
Richard Jasnow and Karl Th. Zauzich
xxx, 648 Seiten, und 67 Tafeln
2005
It shows Judiasm as a creative response to ultimate issues of human concern by members of a group that has faced a unique concatenation of political, economic, and geographical circumstances. “Standing both within and without the mainstream of Western culture, Judaism offers remarkable insights into the genesis and elaboration of powerful religious ideas and into the determined survival of a small, vulnerable people repeatedly forced to confront and adjust to conditions beyond its immediate control.”
The composition, which the editors entitle the "Book of Thoth", is preserved on over forty Graeco-Roman Period papyri from collections in Berlin, Copenhagen, Florence, New Haven, Paris, and Vienna. The central witness is a papyrus of fifteen columns in the Berlin Museum. Written almost entirely in the Demotic script, the Book of Thoth is probably the product of scribes of the "House of Life", the temple scriptorium. It comprises largely a dialogue between a deity, usually called "He-who-praises-knowledge" (presumably Thoth himself) and a mortal, "He-who-loves-knowledge". The work covers such topics as the scribal craft, sacred geography, the underworld, wisdom, prophecy, animal knowledge, and temple ritual. Particularly remarkable is one section (the "Vulture Text") in which each of the 42 nomes of Egypt is identified with a vulture. The language is poetic; the lines are often clearly organized into verses. The subject-matter, dialogue structure, and striking phraseology raise many issues of scholarly interest; especially intriguing are the possible connections between this Egyptian work, in which Thoth is called "thrice-great", and the classical Hermetic Corpus, in which Hermes Trismegistos plays the key role. The first volume comprises interpretative essays, discussion of specific points such as the manuscript tradition, script, and language. The core of the publication is the transliteration of the Demotic text, translation, and commentary. A consecutive translation, glossary, bibliography, and indices conclude the first volume. The second volume contains photographs of the papyri, almost all of which reproduce their original size.
http://www.atleest.com/index.html?target=p_13779.html&lang=en-us
Jasnow and Zauzich: Ancient Egyptian Book of Thoth. A Demotic Discourse on Knowledge and Pendant to the Classical Hermetica. Leinen. 3447050829 / 3-447-05082-9
3447050829
Ancient Egyptian Book of Thoth. A Demotic Discourse on Knowledge and Pendant to the Classical Hermetica. (insgesamt 2 Bände / Teile) Leinen. 3447050829 / 3-447-05082-9
Richard Jasnow and Karl Th. Zauzich
xxx, 648 Seiten, und 67 Tafeln
2005
It shows Judiasm as a creative response to ultimate issues of human concern by members of a group that has faced a unique concatenation of political, economic, and geographical circumstances. “Standing both within and without the mainstream of Western culture, Judaism offers remarkable insights into the genesis and elaboration of powerful religious ideas and into the determined survival of a small, vulnerable people repeatedly forced to confront and adjust to conditions beyond its immediate control.”
The composition, which the editors entitle the "Book of Thoth", is preserved on over forty Graeco-Roman Period papyri from collections in Berlin, Copenhagen, Florence, New Haven, Paris, and Vienna. The central witness is a papyrus of fifteen columns in the Berlin Museum. Written almost entirely in the Demotic script, the Book of Thoth is probably the product of scribes of the "House of Life", the temple scriptorium. It comprises largely a dialogue between a deity, usually called "He-who-praises-knowledge" (presumably Thoth himself) and a mortal, "He-who-loves-knowledge". The work covers such topics as the scribal craft, sacred geography, the underworld, wisdom, prophecy, animal knowledge, and temple ritual. Particularly remarkable is one section (the "Vulture Text") in which each of the 42 nomes of Egypt is identified with a vulture. The language is poetic; the lines are often clearly organized into verses. The subject-matter, dialogue structure, and striking phraseology raise many issues of scholarly interest; especially intriguing are the possible connections between this Egyptian work, in which Thoth is called "thrice-great", and the classical Hermetic Corpus, in which Hermes Trismegistos plays the key role. The first volume comprises interpretative essays, discussion of specific points such as the manuscript tradition, script, and language. The core of the publication is the transliteration of the Demotic text, translation, and commentary. A consecutive translation, glossary, bibliography, and indices conclude the first volume. The second volume contains photographs of the papyri, almost all of which reproduce their original size.
http://www.atleest.com/index.html?target=p_13779.html&lang=en-us
BrightEye
This may be going off on a tangent a bit, but I'm redaing Israel Regardie's Tree of Life at the moment and was wondering, since he mentions the Egyptians a lot, if there is a connection between the 'original' Book of Thoth, Crowley's tarot and the Egyptian Book of the Dead?
John Meador
Beltane stroll
"Divination. -- A number of magical modes of divination are detailed in the 'Demotic Magical Papyrus,' ed Griffith-Thompson (see p. 14), but these instances do not seem to be of ancient origin. Oracle-seeking does not come under the head of magic, as here defined. "
<<F. Ll. Griffith and H. Thompson, Demotic Magical Papyrus, London, 1904>>
http://www.dabar.org/Religion/Hastings/JH-ERE-Magic-Egyptian.html
An demotischen Texten bereitet K.-T. Zauzich die Publikation der Berliner Handschrift des Thot-Buches vor. Er studiert auch eine Gruppe von etwa 250 demotische Ostraka aus Soknopaiou Nesos, cf. Akten des 21. Intern. Papyrologenkongresses Berlin, Stuttgart - Leipzig 1997, S. 1056-1060.
Soknopaiou Nesos, 29 32'N 30 40'E modern Dimai
"The population of a temple village like Soknopaiou Nesos, on the north side of the lake in the Fayyum, with almost 100 percent Egyptian names and very limited signs of Greek culture, is as close to entirely Egyptian as one can come. Even there, however, most of the documents were written in Greek, and there is enough evidence to allow us to suppose that a Greek school operated in the village."
http://www.fathom.com/feature/2080/
"...we find references to other temples (undiscovered, presumably in the town): one of Sokopichonsis, another form of Sobek; one of Thoth, identified by the Greeks with Hermes, where ibises and falcons were mummified and buried as offerings..."
http://ist-socrates.berkeley.edu/~tebtunis/lecture/townfull.html
The Scroll of Thoth
"The name "the Scroll of Thoth" appears in the Tale of Setne, which was written a thousand years after his death. This papyrus (Cairo Museum 30646) tells the story of Prince Setne's desire to obtain a book of magic written by Thoth himself. The idea of a supreme book of magic which had the power to awaken the consciousness. The first account of the book was published in English in 1900 (F. Ll. Griffith Stories of the High Priests of Memphis) and this book so impressed Aleister Crowley, that he took its title and applied to his Tarot deck."
http://www.xeper.org/setne/pages/osk0.htm
Stories of the High Priests of Memphis; The Sethon of Herodotus and The Demotic Tales of Khamuas Parts 1 and 2 by Griffith, F. Ll. (Francis Llewellyn) Oxford, The Clarendon Press, 1900
http://www.cwru.edu/univlib/preserve/Etana/high_priest/high_priest.html
Professor Richard Jasnow of Johns Hopkins University June 2, 2000 summary of his remarks (concerning the tale of Setne
"This is a Graeco-Roman Period story about an actual son of Ramses II, Setne Khamwas. This prince was in fact quite active in restoration and building, and seems to have been something of a scholar as well. It is thus not surprising that he entered the literary tradition as a great magician. However, his image is not always positive. In Setne 1, he appears as a rather unfeeling and selfish priestly magician determined to gain possession of a book written by Thoth himself.
This tale is actually told as a story-within-a-story, for Setne must take the magic book from an earlier magician, Naneferkaptah, who had given his life to possess this powerful book. Setne seizes the book from the dead magician (now a ghost) – the action takes place in the tomb of the magician in Memphis. His wife and child had died as a result of Naneferkaptah's wish to possess the Thoth-book, but they too can still lead a ghostly existence. After the theft, the god Thoth himself had complained to Re, and the thief and his family were condemned to die. While Setne seizes the book from its owners, he is punished by Naneferkaptah, a superior magician." :
http://www.arcedc.org/aug00.html
"This tale of Setna only exists in one copy, a demotic papyrus in the Ghizeh Museum. The demotic was published in facsimile by Mariette in 1871, among “Les Papyrus du Musee de Boulaq;” and it has been translated by Brugsch, Revillout, Maspero, and Hess. The last version—*“Der Demotische Roman von Stne Ha-m-us, von J. J. Hess”—*being a full study of the text with discussion and glossary, has been followed here; while the interpretation of Maspero has also been kept in view in the rendering of obscure passages."
http://www.bookrags.com/ebooks/7413/33.html
Mariette in Papyrus Égyptiens du Musée de Boulaq, publiés en fac-simile sous les auspices de S.A. Ismaïl-Pacha, Khédive d'Égypte.
Brugsch, Le Roman de Setnau (in Revue 147 Archéologique, 2nd series, Vol. xvi., 1867, p. 161 ff.); Maspero, Contes Égyptiens, Paris, 1882, pp. 45-82; Records of the Past, vol. iv., pp. 129-148; and for the original Demotic text see Mariette, Les Papyrus du Musée de Boulaq, tom. i., 1871, pll. 29-32; Revillout, Le Roman de Setna, Paris, 1877; Hess, Roman von Sfne Ha-m-us. Leipzig, 1888.
The Boulaq Museum
"The founding of the old Boulac museum, which was transferred to Ghizeh, and retransferred but a short time ago to Boulac, was due to the marvellous energy and perseverance of F. Auguste Ferdinand Mariette."
http://www.duaut.net/Order.htm
"<<Aleister Crowley>>wrote that he had dinner with a "Brugsch-Bey" of the museum, to talk about the stélé <<"of revealing">>, and there was an Emile Brugsch who was actually a conservator at the museum ("Bey" being a title; one lower than that of "Pasha" which he was later awarded). Brugsch had been responsible for the recovery ."
http://www.duaut.net/Boulaq.htm
see also:
http://www.duaut.net/Archive.html
"It is a curious feature of Crowley's accounts of events that he persisted, throughout his life, in calling the museum in which Rose led him to the stélé "the Boulak museum"; or even as the "museum at Bulaq" ( in "The Equinox of the Gods")."
http://www.castletower.org/boulaq_mcleod.html
Cairo Egypt 1904 17 Mar.
"A.C.’s own entry in his diary "The Book of Results", tells: "It is "all about the child" Also "all Osiris". Thoth, invoked with great success, indwells us." Thoth "probably invoked as in Liber LXIV".
http://home.swipnet.se/~w-21169/Therion.htm
THE EQUINOX OF THE GODS CHAPTER 7
"March 17.<<1904>> More apparently nonsensical messages, this time spontaneous. I invoke Thoth, probably as in Liber LXIV, and presumably to clear up the muddle."
http://www.hermetic.com/crowley/eoftg/eqotg7.html
LIBER ISRAFEL SVB FIGVRA LXIV
"This book was formerly called Anubis, and is referred to the 20th key, "The Angel" "
http://www.geocities.com/cranesco/64.html
"...The old man was a very keen collector, wasn't he? Suppose he employed Spratt to smuggle precious stones? A clever tool; trustworthy, prudent, ingenious, silent; all one could desire! Then suppose the letter was meant to convey exactly what it did not say: the letters omitted instead of those expressed: in plain American, E. Z. 'Easy' would have told your father that he had had no trouble with the Custom House people, and perhaps advised him to take certain prearranged steps for the transference of the smuggled stuff. The haste is now fully accounted for; he must have feared that your father would be anxious, as the ship was so late. Or, possibly, he had promised to make good on a definite day.""
-Aleister Crowley: The Monkey and the Buzz-Saw
"Divination. -- A number of magical modes of divination are detailed in the 'Demotic Magical Papyrus,' ed Griffith-Thompson (see p. 14), but these instances do not seem to be of ancient origin. Oracle-seeking does not come under the head of magic, as here defined. "
<<F. Ll. Griffith and H. Thompson, Demotic Magical Papyrus, London, 1904>>
http://www.dabar.org/Religion/Hastings/JH-ERE-Magic-Egyptian.html
An demotischen Texten bereitet K.-T. Zauzich die Publikation der Berliner Handschrift des Thot-Buches vor. Er studiert auch eine Gruppe von etwa 250 demotische Ostraka aus Soknopaiou Nesos, cf. Akten des 21. Intern. Papyrologenkongresses Berlin, Stuttgart - Leipzig 1997, S. 1056-1060.
Soknopaiou Nesos, 29 32'N 30 40'E modern Dimai
"The population of a temple village like Soknopaiou Nesos, on the north side of the lake in the Fayyum, with almost 100 percent Egyptian names and very limited signs of Greek culture, is as close to entirely Egyptian as one can come. Even there, however, most of the documents were written in Greek, and there is enough evidence to allow us to suppose that a Greek school operated in the village."
http://www.fathom.com/feature/2080/
"...we find references to other temples (undiscovered, presumably in the town): one of Sokopichonsis, another form of Sobek; one of Thoth, identified by the Greeks with Hermes, where ibises and falcons were mummified and buried as offerings..."
http://ist-socrates.berkeley.edu/~tebtunis/lecture/townfull.html
The Scroll of Thoth
"The name "the Scroll of Thoth" appears in the Tale of Setne, which was written a thousand years after his death. This papyrus (Cairo Museum 30646) tells the story of Prince Setne's desire to obtain a book of magic written by Thoth himself. The idea of a supreme book of magic which had the power to awaken the consciousness. The first account of the book was published in English in 1900 (F. Ll. Griffith Stories of the High Priests of Memphis) and this book so impressed Aleister Crowley, that he took its title and applied to his Tarot deck."
http://www.xeper.org/setne/pages/osk0.htm
Stories of the High Priests of Memphis; The Sethon of Herodotus and The Demotic Tales of Khamuas Parts 1 and 2 by Griffith, F. Ll. (Francis Llewellyn) Oxford, The Clarendon Press, 1900
http://www.cwru.edu/univlib/preserve/Etana/high_priest/high_priest.html
Professor Richard Jasnow of Johns Hopkins University June 2, 2000 summary of his remarks (concerning the tale of Setne
"This is a Graeco-Roman Period story about an actual son of Ramses II, Setne Khamwas. This prince was in fact quite active in restoration and building, and seems to have been something of a scholar as well. It is thus not surprising that he entered the literary tradition as a great magician. However, his image is not always positive. In Setne 1, he appears as a rather unfeeling and selfish priestly magician determined to gain possession of a book written by Thoth himself.
This tale is actually told as a story-within-a-story, for Setne must take the magic book from an earlier magician, Naneferkaptah, who had given his life to possess this powerful book. Setne seizes the book from the dead magician (now a ghost) – the action takes place in the tomb of the magician in Memphis. His wife and child had died as a result of Naneferkaptah's wish to possess the Thoth-book, but they too can still lead a ghostly existence. After the theft, the god Thoth himself had complained to Re, and the thief and his family were condemned to die. While Setne seizes the book from its owners, he is punished by Naneferkaptah, a superior magician." :
http://www.arcedc.org/aug00.html
"This tale of Setna only exists in one copy, a demotic papyrus in the Ghizeh Museum. The demotic was published in facsimile by Mariette in 1871, among “Les Papyrus du Musee de Boulaq;” and it has been translated by Brugsch, Revillout, Maspero, and Hess. The last version—*“Der Demotische Roman von Stne Ha-m-us, von J. J. Hess”—*being a full study of the text with discussion and glossary, has been followed here; while the interpretation of Maspero has also been kept in view in the rendering of obscure passages."
http://www.bookrags.com/ebooks/7413/33.html
Mariette in Papyrus Égyptiens du Musée de Boulaq, publiés en fac-simile sous les auspices de S.A. Ismaïl-Pacha, Khédive d'Égypte.
Brugsch, Le Roman de Setnau (in Revue 147 Archéologique, 2nd series, Vol. xvi., 1867, p. 161 ff.); Maspero, Contes Égyptiens, Paris, 1882, pp. 45-82; Records of the Past, vol. iv., pp. 129-148; and for the original Demotic text see Mariette, Les Papyrus du Musée de Boulaq, tom. i., 1871, pll. 29-32; Revillout, Le Roman de Setna, Paris, 1877; Hess, Roman von Sfne Ha-m-us. Leipzig, 1888.
The Boulaq Museum
"The founding of the old Boulac museum, which was transferred to Ghizeh, and retransferred but a short time ago to Boulac, was due to the marvellous energy and perseverance of F. Auguste Ferdinand Mariette."
http://www.duaut.net/Order.htm
"<<Aleister Crowley>>wrote that he had dinner with a "Brugsch-Bey" of the museum, to talk about the stélé <<"of revealing">>, and there was an Emile Brugsch who was actually a conservator at the museum ("Bey" being a title; one lower than that of "Pasha" which he was later awarded). Brugsch had been responsible for the recovery ."
http://www.duaut.net/Boulaq.htm
see also:
http://www.duaut.net/Archive.html
"It is a curious feature of Crowley's accounts of events that he persisted, throughout his life, in calling the museum in which Rose led him to the stélé "the Boulak museum"; or even as the "museum at Bulaq" ( in "The Equinox of the Gods")."
http://www.castletower.org/boulaq_mcleod.html
Cairo Egypt 1904 17 Mar.
"A.C.’s own entry in his diary "The Book of Results", tells: "It is "all about the child" Also "all Osiris". Thoth, invoked with great success, indwells us." Thoth "probably invoked as in Liber LXIV".
http://home.swipnet.se/~w-21169/Therion.htm
THE EQUINOX OF THE GODS CHAPTER 7
"March 17.<<1904>> More apparently nonsensical messages, this time spontaneous. I invoke Thoth, probably as in Liber LXIV, and presumably to clear up the muddle."
http://www.hermetic.com/crowley/eoftg/eqotg7.html
LIBER ISRAFEL SVB FIGVRA LXIV
"This book was formerly called Anubis, and is referred to the 20th key, "The Angel" "
http://www.geocities.com/cranesco/64.html
"...The old man was a very keen collector, wasn't he? Suppose he employed Spratt to smuggle precious stones? A clever tool; trustworthy, prudent, ingenious, silent; all one could desire! Then suppose the letter was meant to convey exactly what it did not say: the letters omitted instead of those expressed: in plain American, E. Z. 'Easy' would have told your father that he had had no trouble with the Custom House people, and perhaps advised him to take certain prearranged steps for the transference of the smuggled stuff. The haste is now fully accounted for; he must have feared that your father would be anxious, as the ship was so late. Or, possibly, he had promised to make good on a definite day.""
-Aleister Crowley: The Monkey and the Buzz-Saw
xsyorra
Defining Thoth in simplistic language:
The easiest way for me to define Thoth is in the following discription:
1) The Ibis-headed god of magick and wisdom in the Egyptian pantheon
2) A much held onto belief of Occult societies that the Tarot is of an ancient Egyptian origin, and is the secret wisdom of this doctrine
3) What most of these Occult societies seem to name their Tarot (see listings 1 &2)
and finally:
4) This reference is to Aliester Crowley's deck and book. The deck is almost authentically Golden Dawn, while the book is hard to get into and obscure in its discriptions.
If you have a working knowledge of Qabballah, Natal and Transit Astrology, and Geomancy the book is worth the price for its appendices alone. If your'e a fan of Crowley.......it will make more sense.
The easiest way for me to define Thoth is in the following discription:
1) The Ibis-headed god of magick and wisdom in the Egyptian pantheon
2) A much held onto belief of Occult societies that the Tarot is of an ancient Egyptian origin, and is the secret wisdom of this doctrine
3) What most of these Occult societies seem to name their Tarot (see listings 1 &2)
and finally:
4) This reference is to Aliester Crowley's deck and book. The deck is almost authentically Golden Dawn, while the book is hard to get into and obscure in its discriptions.
If you have a working knowledge of Qabballah, Natal and Transit Astrology, and Geomancy the book is worth the price for its appendices alone. If your'e a fan of Crowley.......it will make more sense.
