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Okay, got another dead guy here. so lay out some cards and some interps and see if you can guess who this one is!
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Okay, got another dead guy here. so lay out some cards and some interps and see if you can guess who this one is!
Trying out my new Tarot of the Magical Forest, and a modified past-life spread lifted from Power Tarot...

1-2-3
4-5-6
7-8-9

1. Environment - 3 Pentacles Rx
2. Early years - 6 Pentacles Rx
3. Education - Queen Pentacles
4. Accomplishments - Knave Wands
5. Occupation - Chariot Rx
6. Social status - Tower
7. Relationships - 8 Pentacles Rx
8. Family life - 2 Wands
9. Death - 7 Swords

First impression is that there are more pentacles than anything else, no cups, and several reversals. Could the MP have had a tumultuous life, particularly in his youth, and that some of the tumult was related to emotional absences? Did he have to overcome greater than normal numbers of challenges to get where he got?

1-3 Was he possibly an only child, born into financial difficulty, but (possibly through the good graces of a mentor) he managed to achieve a high level of education.

4-6 Was he possibly a scientist who studied the real fundamentals of how things worked, and whose theories had trouble gaining acceptance, but when they did they overturned long-held belief systems (although they remained unpopular)?

7-9 Possibly he focused on his work to the detriment of his relationships? He made a family of his own, but they may have felt they were invisible to him. His death may have been from a chronic condition he didn't know he had, or a result of his biology turning against itself--such as cancer, or an autoimmune illness?

Heaven knows he doesn't fit with a lot of the above--but given that much of the above is probably wrong-- I'm going to make my first guess Charles Darwin.
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Trying out my new Tarot of the Magical Forest, and a modified past-life spread lifted from Power Tarot...

1-2-3
4-5-6
7-8-9

1. Environment - 3 Pentacles Rx
2. Early years - 6 Pentacles Rx
3. Education - Queen Pentacles
4. Accomplishments - Knave Wands
5. Occupation - Chariot Rx
6. Social status - Tower
7. Relationships - 8 Pentacles Rx
8. Family life - 2 Wands
9. Death - 7 Swords

First impression is that there are more pentacles than anything else, no cups, and several reversals. Could the MP have had a tumultuous life, particularly in his youth, and that some of the tumult was related to emotional absences? Did he have to overcome greater than normal numbers of challenges to get where he got?
I don't believe it was tumultuous in his youth, but I feel it was sort of this way in his adult life. His career was 'odd', but he did well with it, and is well known as a result too. he was unique in a way, and this really helped him in his career-but I do belive he had to overcome greater than normal numbers of challenges too.

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1-3 Was he possibly an only child, born into financial difficulty, but (possibly through the good graces of a mentor) he managed to achieve a high level of education.
I cannot find any references to siblings, so I'll say yes. he was born to parents who possibly struggled. not sure how much education he had, but he was noted as being very intellectual.
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4-6 Was he possibly a scientist who studied the real fundamentals of how things worked, and whose theories had trouble gaining acceptance, but when they did they overturned long-held belief systems (although they remained unpopular)?
not a scientist, no. however, what he did was 'different' and he did at first have trouble getting that acceptance.
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7-9 Possibly he focused on his work to the detriment of his relationships? He made a family of his own, but they may have felt they were invisible to him. His death may have been from a chronic condition he didn't know he had, or a result of his biology turning against itself--such as cancer, or an autoimmune illness?
the focus on his work didn't lead to the detriment of his relationships, but it was a focus on his religious beliefs. he did have a family of his own, yes, and yes, i believe he was often absent from them. his death was from a condition he had, and he knew he had it, but he ignored the advice of his doctors, and thus died as a result. it was diabetes and a heart condition. very good!
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Heaven knows he doesn't fit with a lot of the above--but given that much of the above is probably wrong-- I'm going to make my first guess Charles Darwin.
nope, not Charles Darwin.

thanks for playing and getting us started!
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I don't even know what tarot cards look like anymore.... here goes..back from a long time away.
With the Vic Ro:

LOOKS: King WandsRX/ 10 PentsRX: I would say he looked worried and anxious, but also sort of inflexible. I don't think you would want to start a fight with him based on his looks as he would defend himself, and not just physically. Overbearing, opinionated and probably stubborn. Perhaps had a look of being a bit untrustworthy too, in a con artist sort of way.

CAREER: Page WandsRX/ 7 Swords: This guy seems like a bit of a prima donna. He may have been a master of showmanship, something of a snake oil salesman, a medicine man. He was very enthusiastic about his plan and ideas but they often fizzled. He did succeed, but it was almost in spite of himself. He managed to pull off a coup of some sort. There feels to me something sort of vague, illicit, or crafty.

PERSONALITY: 7 Cups/ Justice: A real dreamer, but in some way either justice caught up with him or he felt his actions were righting some wrong.

Something Special: 6 Cups RX: Somehow stuck in the past or hindered by a past experience.

How bout Ponzi?



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WOO HOO!!!!

WELCOME BACK, BLACKAIRPLANE!!! Haven't seen you about in weeks--though I was also gone for awhile.

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I don't even know what tarot cards look like anymore.... here goes..back from a long time away.
With the Vic Ro:

LOOKS: King WandsRX/ 10 PentsRX: I would say he looked worried and anxious, but also sort of inflexible. I don't think you would want to start a fight with him based on his looks as he would defend himself, and not just physically. Overbearing, opinionated and probably stubborn. Perhaps had a look of being a bit untrustworthy too, in a con artist sort of way.
he did have a sort of 'worry' and 'anxiousness' about him, yes. He was scary looking, but not scary in the sense of say, one of the Mafia guys, like Lucky Luciano--more scary as in he looked scraggly and near death because he was so pale and sickly looking. From what I recall reading on him, he could be a bit overbearing and opinionated and definately stubborn too---but I don't think he was a con artist really. He was also noted as being very funny and a really nice and intelligent guy. he was mostly overbearing with women, I think.

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CAREER: Page WandsRX/ 7 Swords: This guy seems like a bit of a prima donna. He may have been a master of showmanship, something of a snake oil salesman, a medicine man. He was very enthusiastic about his plan and ideas but they often fizzled. He did succeed, but it was almost in spite of himself. He managed to pull off a coup of some sort. There feels to me something sort of vague, illicit, or crafty.
he was a master of showmanship and very enthusiastic with his plans/ideas. he was quite popular for awhile, but yes, it did fizzle out for awhile. He tried to make a comeback though. he was somewhat successful, surprisingly.

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PERSONALITY: 7 Cups/ Justice: A real dreamer, but in some way either justice caught up with him or he felt his actions were righting some wrong.

Something Special: 6 Cups RX: Somehow stuck in the past or hindered by a past experience.

How bout Ponzi?
yes, I do feel he was a bit of a dreamer. he never did anything unlawful that I know of or read about---so it can be that he felt his actions were righting some wrong. he was very much related to the past, it was a big part of who he was. he wasn't hindered by a past experience, really--it was just that he capitalized on things from the past.

good reading! great to see you back here, BA!
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Using the Fey

Career -
Knave of Pentacles, The Chariot, Ace of Pentacles

Knave of Pentacles is sitting on a disk that has the stars and moon on it, so I am thinking that either he was an astronaut, a pilot or an astrologer. The Chariot it looks sort of like your Cinderella type thing, you know, Cinderella going to the ball in a carriage that was magically zapped from a pumpkin and mice, but in the card the chariot actually looks like a fruit of some kind, and is pulled by mice. The way the man is sitting, I am more inclined to say something along the lines that the person may be a writer. Ace of Pentacles the Fey is drawing like a mandala on her hand.

Put all these together, makes me think that this person is like Walt Disney, in the sense that they are associated with writing animated stories, or something along those lines. If not a writer, then maybe a painter.

Family life -
3 of Swords, The Sun, The Magician

Hmm, seems strange. Well, in the past it might indicate that his family life was not that good, but maybe later he got married, and started a nice little family. Perhaps during his marriage, and having children, he started of his career, in a matter of speaking. Maybe having children, so to speak, inspired him.

Social life -
9 of Chalices, The Wheel, 2 of Chalices

Happy social life. Plenty of friends.

Outlook -
Knave of Swords, King of Swords, The World

Was fair and unbiased, in a manner of speaking. He liked to stick to how things are supposed to be, either in the social realms of things, or more than that. He was able to make connections, and move on so to speak. Maybe he was able to assimilate things in a different way, coming up with different conclusions. Very intelligent, very creative and very inventive. I look at the card, and it just makes me think that he can make any place his home, in a manner of speaking. He was not alien to travelling around, from country to country so to speak. It could almost be seen that he travelled with his home, if that makes sense. I have no idea what I am talking about!

How others view him -
7 of Chalices, The Fool, The Lovers

LOL, all I can think of is different!

Well, I mentioned it before, so I am going to say Walt Disney, besides the fairy in The Lovers looks a bit like Tinkerbell
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Alrighty dead guy!

King of Pents: Must be our guy and a wealthy one at that. Dark hair and eyes and it looks like there is some sort of darkness about him all together like he was very troubled, it's the blackness of the kings throne that's got my attention like he had so much but there was something shadowing him about his position in life, at this point I'm questioning his tactics, lets see what else comes up.
Looks: Queen of Swords/Devil
geesh! He might have had some physical hardships that came about when he was a young child, I don't think he was very attractive and his looks were probably quite intimidating, he looked mean but I don't think he was mean, lol why does his enviornment and surroundings look so dark? I see a lot of black in this spread. Could he be african~american?

Personality: Justice/Queen of Pents
He was pretty fair and balanced and might have been attracted to law or in charge of the "laws of the land". He was a good decision maker and might have been a bit on the materialistic side, with both the king and queen of pents I'm guessing he loved money and fine things. there might have been a woman he was close to that was a great influence on him but not his mother, perhaps a sister, he might have been a bit rigid and set in his ways, a taurus maybe?

Career: 8 of swords/2 of pents
I get a feeling he might have been shunned for his work or better yet maybe he shunned himself, I think he had 2 careers going that he juggled back and forth with, i get the feeling he might have not wanted to persue something he was doing and went on to something new and different but of the same thing. I also think he didn't allow himself for much fun as he was always working on something, it could be a case where he didn't want to follow what was expected of him and he wanted to do his own thing.

Family: Page of cups/temperance
I'm guessing he had children and a wife, but I feel like something happened within the family that was a bit of a shock when he heard the news and compromises had to be made. lol, I'm not all to sure what this means, I'm having a hard time making sense of it, it seems like there is something in this area that he was uneasy about but he was patient and devoted to them.

Well, I have to see what everyone else got on him, not feeling to comfy with this reading.



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Using the Fey

Career -
Knave of Pentacles, The Chariot, Ace of Pentacles

Knave of Pentacles is sitting on a disk that has the stars and moon on it, so I am thinking that either he was an astronaut, a pilot or an astrologer. The Chariot it looks sort of like your Cinderella type thing, you know, Cinderella going to the ball in a carriage that was magically zapped from a pumpkin and mice, but in the card the chariot actually looks like a fruit of some kind, and is pulled by mice. The way the man is sitting, I am more inclined to say something along the lines that the person may be a writer. Ace of Pentacles the Fey is drawing like a mandala on her hand.
no, not an astronaut, pilot or astrologer, but sometimes he did seem to be a bit spacey and have his head in the clouds. He is a sort of writer, but that is not really what we would characterize him in his career.
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Put all these together, makes me think that this person is like Walt Disney, in the sense that they are associated with writing animated stories, or something along those lines. If not a writer, then maybe a painter.
Not Walt Disney and not a painter either.
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Family life -
3 of Swords, The Sun, The Magician

Hmm, seems strange. Well, in the past it might indicate that his family life was not that good, but maybe later he got married, and started a nice little family. Perhaps during his marriage, and having children, he started of his career, in a matter of speaking. Maybe having children, so to speak, inspired him.
As far as I can tell his childhood was okay. they were not rich people, but I don't think he was abused in any way. he did marry and start a family, but this was after his career began to make him famous. his career wasn't really for children--but he was odd enough to possibly be enjoyed by kids.
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Social life -
9 of Chalices, The Wheel, 2 of Chalices

Happy social life. Plenty of friends.
yes, he actually did have a happy social life and plenty of friends.
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Outlook -
Knave of Swords, King of Swords, The World

Was fair and unbiased, in a manner of speaking. He liked to stick to how things are supposed to be, either in the social realms of things, or more than that. He was able to make connections, and move on so to speak. Maybe he was able to assimilate things in a different way, coming up with different conclusions. Very intelligent, very creative and very inventive. I look at the card, and it just makes me think that he can make any place his home, in a manner of speaking. He was not alien to travelling around, from country to country so to speak. It could almost be seen that he travelled with his home, if that makes sense. I have no idea what I am talking about!
I can see him as being fair and unbiased, and 'stick to how things are suppose to be' is right on for him. it's what hurt his first marriage--as he felt there were roles for the husband and roles for the wife. he was very intelligent and very creative and yes, very inventive too! I don't think he traveled that extensively, but he did go to England, I know.

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How others view him -
7 of Chalices, The Fool, The Lovers

LOL, all I can think of is different!

Well, I mentioned it before, so I am going to say Walt Disney, besides the fairy in The Lovers looks a bit like Tinkerbell
yep! he WAS different. that is a GREAT word for him! he was 'odd' to be sure.

great read! not Walt Disney though.
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Alrighty dead guy!

King of Pents: Must be our guy and a wealthy one at that. Dark hair and eyes and it looks like there is some sort of darkness about him all together like he was very troubled, it's the blackness of the kings throne that's got my attention like he had so much but there was something shadowing him about his position in life, at this point I'm questioning his tactics, lets see what else comes up.
yes--dark hair and eyes--good! there was also some sort of darkness about him. he did seem to be troubled--he was wierd. this is all very good!
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Looks: Queen of Swords/Devil
geesh! He might have had some physical hardships that came about when he was a young child, I don't think he was very attractive and his looks were probably quite intimidating, he looked mean but I don't think he was mean, lol why does his enviornment and surroundings look so dark? I see a lot of black in this spread. Could he be african~american?
not sure about the physical hardships. I don't think he was attractive at all, and his looks, though not really intimidating, they contributed to his 'wierdness'. he didn't look mean and he wasn't mean, really. his environment and surroundings I can see as appearing dark. he was not african american.
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Personality: Justice/Queen of Pents
He was pretty fair and balanced and might have been attracted to law or in charge of the "laws of the land". He was a good decision maker and might have been a bit on the materialistic side, with both the king and queen of pents I'm guessing he loved money and fine things. there might have been a woman he was close to that was a great influence on him but not his mother, perhaps a sister, he might have been a bit rigid and set in his ways, a taurus maybe?
I'm not so sure he was very balanced, but that can be my own opinion. he was a veyr intelligent man, and pretty fair, so he may have also been balanced. I think he did very well with his 'thing' and made alot of money, yes. he was married 3 times, and possibly one of those women helped him alot. I am inclined to think it was either his first wife or his 3rd. Not a taurus--an Aries, but that's close, and I find often those two signs are equally bullheaded! (my own opinion, and not meant to offend).

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Career: 8 of swords/2 of pents
I get a feeling he might have been shunned for his work or better yet maybe he shunned himself, I think he had 2 careers going that he juggled back and forth with, i get the feeling he might have not wanted to persue something he was doing and went on to something new and different but of the same thing. I also think he didn't allow himself for much fun as he was always working on something, it could be a case where he didn't want to follow what was expected of him and he wanted to do his own thing.
he was sort of shunned, yes. as for 2 careers going, he really only had 01, but in the end of his years, when he was no longer sought after, he would take on other jobs as well.
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Family: Page of cups/temperance
I'm guessing he had children and a wife, but I feel like something happened within the family that was a bit of a shock when he heard the news and compromises had to be made. lol, I'm not all to sure what this means, I'm having a hard time making sense of it, it seems like there is something in this area that he was uneasy about but he was patient and devoted to them.

Well, I have to see what everyone else got on him, not feeling to comfy with this reading.
he was married 3times, and had children wtih #1. one child was miscarried and then a daughter was born and is still alive today. I am not sure if there are anymore though. I think the shock was him marrying wife #1, as he was quite 'wierd' and she was a model, I think, and he was twice her age or more! it was a highly publicized wedding, and ***HINT*** on television--on a famous television night show.

this guy is obscure, but possibly everyone has heard of him at least, unless I'm truly showing my age here! your reading was very good, really.
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I've been holding it in since yesterday

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I knew there was something with that kings foot, I would have never guessed tip toeing through the tulips though



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