Piatnik TdM cardstock Q

SolSionnach · 14-10-2008

I'm assuming that there are people on this board who have this deck: http://www.carte-karuta.com/catalog/...&products_id=3

You know me and TdMs...

I'm wondering, what is the cardstock/lamination like? Is it highly polished like new decks, or is it more like an old-style, unlaminated finish with heavier cardstock?

I've fallen in love with the Heron Vieville, which has heavy stock, is unlaminated, and has square corners. I never thought I'd like a deck like this, but it feels so authentic. I do like the looks of this Piatnik deck, even though it appears to have rounded corners.

Thanks!

Abrac · 14-10-2008

Hi sravana. I used to have it. The stock isn't like the Vieville, it's thinner and more flexible. I would say the finish is more like satin. It's not high gloss like on some of the newer US Games decks, but it's not like the Vieville either. It's somewhere in between.

Myrrha · 14-10-2008

My copy of the Piatnik TdM is on fairly heavy cardstock. I have it in front of me with a Lo Scarabeo deck for comparison and the Piatnik TdM deck is more than 1/4 inch thicker stack than the LS deck because of the thick cardstock.

The cards do not have the papery "could draw in them with a pencil" feel of uncoated stock. They are lightly coated but it feels more varnish-y than plastic-y. Definitely not glossy.

The corners are just barely rounded. The rounding is not as deep a curve as on modern decks.

I suspect that the producers of this deck were very careful to make decisions that people who know about historical decks would be happy with.

**Le Fanu** · 14-10-2008

This deck has great cardstock. One of the best. My edition has stiff cardstock. The Vieville is better because it´s so much more subtley stiff (if you know what I mean). The Vieville is almost Meneghello in its style. And that goes for the finish too. It isn´t totally matt like the Meneghellos, but certainly "discreetly" laminated.

I don´t use the Piatnik Marseilles as much as I should. There´s a slight yellowishness about it, the colouring feels slightly dated, and some of the lines in the woodcut are missing. This should give it an authentic "18th Century" feel but it just makes it feel not very well done. Love the cardstock though

SolSionnach · 14-10-2008

Very interesting, Le Fanu...
I see what you mean by "yellowish".

I am having a new love affair with reproductions of old decks that actually *look* old - and after pining for a Dussere Dodal for a while, found that Piatnik deck.

I don't think that it's really what I'm looking for, but I'm already in a place where I'm worrying about wearing out my Vieville... then what?

Must. find. another....

Hooked on TdM · 14-10-2008

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Originally Posted by sravana

but I'm already in a place where I'm worrying about wearing out my Vieville... then what?

Must. find. another....

SAC...RI...LEGE!!!

NO NO NO! It shall not wear out!!!!!

Hooked

**Astraea** · 14-10-2008

Hi Sravana. The deck is indeed on the yellowish side, but for me this is not a drawback. It is one of my favorite TdM, and in fact I admire its Hermit best of all the historical decks. I find the cardstock is just right - thick enough to be durable, but still flexible. And the lamination is not overdone at all. I doubt you'd regret adding this deck to your collection.

Nina* · 14-10-2008

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Originally Posted by Astraea

Hi Sravana. The deck is indeed on the yellowish side, but for me this is not a drawback. It is one of my favorite TdM, and in fact I admire its Hermit best of all the historical decks. I find the cardstock is just right - thick enough to be durable, but still flexible. And the lamination is not overdone at all. I doubt you'd regret adding this deck to your collection.

I completely agree with this. It's a wonderful deck with a wonderful cardstock. My very favorite after the Vieville.

SolSionnach · 15-10-2008

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Originally Posted by Hooked on TdM

SAC...RI...LEGE!!!

NO NO NO! It shall not wear out!!!!!

LOL Hooked! I certainly hope that it won't wear out - but I have no idea how Heron's cardstock will hold up.

That being said, I suppose I could switch to Flornoy's restoration of the deck if/when it becomes available. But I do

my Vieville greatly!!

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Originally Posted by Astraea

Hi Sravana. The deck is indeed on the yellowish side, but for me this is not a drawback. It is one of my favorite TdM, and in fact I admire its Hermit best of all the historical decks. I find the cardstock is just right - thick enough to be durable, but still flexible. And the lamination is not overdone at all. I doubt you'd regret adding this deck to your collection.

Hi Astraea - that does sound really nice! I'm saving my shekels for thinbuddha's Payen reproduction/restoration, and after that I'll look at this Piatnik TdM.

I think that I'm definitely going to get it, eventually - and it's very affordable from Carte Karuta.

**Astraea** · 15-10-2008

Yes, I'm eager for thinbuddha's Payen, too!

That is indeed a good price for the Piatnik TdM at Carte Karuta. It's a great site, thank you for posting the link - I've bookmarked it.

SolSionnach Citizen Join Date: 30 Oct 2006 Location: Third coast, USA Posts: 3,701	Piatnik TdM cardstock Q I'm assuming that there are people on this board who have this deck: http://www.carte-karuta.com/catalog/...&products_id=3 You know me and TdMs... I'm wondering, what is the cardstock/lamination like? Is it highly polished like new decks, or is it more like an old-style, unlaminated finish with heavier cardstock? I've fallen in love with the Heron Vieville, which has heavy stock, is unlaminated, and has square corners. I never thought I'd like a deck like this, but it feels so authentic. I do like the looks of this Piatnik deck, even though it appears to have rounded corners. Thanks! __________________ Tarotist, musician, writer. Stopped looking for the perfect deck ages ago, it doesn't exist. Likes most of the ones in her collection!

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Le Fanu Citizen Join Date: 10 Feb 2008 Location: Somewhere Spooky Posts: 13,922	This deck has great cardstock. One of the best. My edition has stiff cardstock. The Vieville is better because it´s so much more subtley stiff (if you know what I mean). The Vieville is almost Meneghello in its style. And that goes for the finish too. It isn´t totally matt like the Meneghellos, but certainly "discreetly" laminated. I don´t use the Piatnik Marseilles as much as I should. There´s a slight yellowishness about it, the colouring feels slightly dated, and some of the lines in the woodcut are missing. This should give it an authentic "18th Century" feel but it just makes it feel not very well done. Love the cardstock though Last edited by Le Fanu; 14-10-2008 at 06:05.

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SolSionnach Citizen Join Date: 30 Oct 2006 Location: Third coast, USA Posts: 3,701	Very interesting, Le Fanu... I see what you mean by "yellowish". I am having a new love affair with reproductions of old decks that actually look old - and after pining for a Dussere Dodal for a while, found that Piatnik deck. I don't think that it's really what I'm looking for, but I'm already in a place where I'm worrying about wearing out my Vieville... then what? Must. find. another.... __________________ Tarotist, musician, writer. Stopped looking for the perfect deck ages ago, it doesn't exist. Likes most of the ones in her collection!

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Astraea Senior Citizen Join Date: 13 Feb 2003 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 3,584	Hi Sravana. The deck is indeed on the yellowish side, but for me this is not a drawback. It is one of my favorite TdM, and in fact I admire its Hermit best of all the historical decks. I find the cardstock is just right - thick enough to be durable, but still flexible. And the lamination is not overdone at all. I doubt you'd regret adding this deck to your collection. __________________ Thoughts are things And words have wings (Rosicrucian maxim)

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Astraea Senior Citizen Join Date: 13 Feb 2003 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 3,584	Yes, I'm eager for thinbuddha's Payen, too! That is indeed a good price for the Piatnik TdM at Carte Karuta. It's a great site, thank you for posting the link - I've bookmarked it. __________________ Thoughts are things And words have wings (Rosicrucian maxim)

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Abrac Citizen Join Date: 13 Aug 2005 Location: USA Posts: 3,041	Hi sravana. I used to have it. The stock isn't like the Vieville, it's thinner and more flexible. I would say the finish is more like satin. It's not high gloss like on some of the newer US Games decks, but it's not like the Vieville either. It's somewhere in between.

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Myrrha Citizen Join Date: 23 Sep 2002 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,073	My copy of the Piatnik TdM is on fairly heavy cardstock. I have it in front of me with a Lo Scarabeo deck for comparison and the Piatnik TdM deck is more than 1/4 inch thicker stack than the LS deck because of the thick cardstock. The cards do not have the papery "could draw in them with a pencil" feel of uncoated stock. They are lightly coated but it feels more varnish-y than plastic-y. Definitely not glossy. The corners are just barely rounded. The rounding is not as deep a curve as on modern decks. I suspect that the producers of this deck were very careful to make decisions that people who know about historical decks would be happy with.

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