Looking For An Oracle Deck For Timing/Predicting Events

[sammyofnyc]

I want to thank everyone again and I want to let you know that I purchased the Lenormand deck Cartomancy Deck Jeu Du Destin by Piatnik and I also purchased the book by Slyvie Steinback which is great by the way.

I have gotten pretty good at memorizing the meaning of the cards and how to associate them with other cards, but the issue of TIMING still is unresolved. Yes you can do timing but I don't know how to explain it...I guess what I am trying to say is that it is not clear cut especially when you are dealing with 36 that have different seasons and months of the year associated with it.

I looked at the Tarot d'Eltynee but it more complex and I don't think it is very specific with time frames (maybe I am wrong).

I could not find Geja Lenormand or the Geja Kipper cards online or where to purchase them. Also I wonder if they are written in a foreign language imprinted on them. This would hinder my ability to interpret them also. But if they are just like the Lenormand card that I have then I think I will have the same problem for the same reasons.

I did look at the L'oeil de Lotus and I really like them since they have cards mixed in with time frames on it like the Spring card.

I might try purchasing the L'oeil de Lotus unless someone else has other suggestions. I am always willing to learn as much as I can and I thank everyone for their suggestions and help.

Wishing you all the best,

Samson

[The Gordo]

Originally Posted by Bernice

Hiya Gordo

And sammyofnyc asked about decks with no astro.

The Tarot d'Eltynne can be used without astro. I don't use any astro at all and it doesn't take away any accuracy.

[The Gordo]

Originally Posted by sammyofnyc

I have gotten pretty good at memorizing the meaning of the cards and how to associate them with other cards, but the issue of TIMING still is unresolved. Yes you can do timing but I don't know how to explain it...I guess what I am trying to say is that it is not clear cut especially when you are dealing with 36 that have different seasons and months of the year associated with it.

Hi sammy,

I'm afraid I don't understand how you define "timing." Do you mean you are looking to predict an outcome within a certain timeframe? Like within a day, week or month?

[sammyofnyc]

I have a question regarding timing with the Lenormand cards. I have the Mlle. Lenormand Cartomancy Deck by Piatnik and I also have the Sylvie Steinbach book which does cover timing issues but I am not completed convinced by her method for timing events so I tried other websites including this one that talks about timing with Lenormand and they are sooooo contradictory to each other. It makes your head spin ala Linda Blair. I am pretty good with the meaning of the cards and the spreads but I SUCK when it comes to predicting time frames or timing events.

There are a few websites one in particular a German website that have courses for learning the Lenormand cards but I don't have the money to take those courses and I don't know German. Besides like I stated I know about the cards and the meaning. All I need to learn is timing events!!

One question that has always bothered me in terms of timing is when a reading is done and cards are read in relation to other cards how do you know which card to select to represent the time frame when something is supposed to happen?

Let's us say for example you do a reading and the subject is money and let's say you get 4 cards that deal with money/financial issues during the reading, which of those cards do you select to represent the time frame to make your decision. Based on the book written by Steinbach, most cards represent a different time frame, so how do you know which one card to select that would answer the question about when something is supposed to happen?

If the Lenormand cards are accurate (and I believe they are) then the time frame has to be SPECIFIC also. I would feel comfortable-not to mention my ego would feel good--if I would be able to pinpoint a time frame accurately and be consistently correct almost all the time. Boy that would be great! Telling someone that an event will take place between now and 5 years from now is not my idea of a good fortune teller. I mean really, anyone without access to any oracle/divination system can say something will happen to you between now and 5 years from now and most likely it will (assuming you are still able to witness the event). I mean it defeats the purpose of predicting altogether since most people want to know not just what is going to happen but WHEN!

There has to be a SIMPLE & ACCURATE (with little time variance) that can give reliable time frame prediction. Does anyone have any suggestions???

I appreciate any help.

Sam

[sammyofnyc]

Thank you El Gordo for your reply. I meant what I just posted before. I know what the Lenormand cards mean and how to interpret them but I don't know how to assign a time frame or predict when an event is going to happen! That's my dilemma.

Sam

[sammyofnyc]

It has been a long time but I am writing now to say "hello" to everyone. Being ill and away from the computer but I am feeling a little better now and want to say hello to everyone and wish everyone great health, happiness, peace, prosperity and above all love.

Your friend,

Sammy

[smerlinda]

timing an event is basically the most difficult thing to do while reading and foretelling future -
no system is safe and sure - it does not matter which system you are using -
you must have learn this by now -
the Moon oracle is good for give a date or a frame time in which that event can actually happen, there are also cards like "Le carte divinatorie della Magia Bianca" by Emanuele Imperiali (De Vecchi Editore), the deck contains cards that hold a system to time the events -
basically any oracle deck has in the cards a system (or specific cards) to date the events -
the truth is that the best system is the one you create using a specific deck that "speaks" to you better than other decks -
then you must understand that anytime it appears in the reading an event, you can happily check the process of the event doing specific reading about that event -
some spread have in itself a timing (3 weeks, 6 monthes, etc.) -
I hope to have been helpfull -

[inertia]

Historically, all oracle cards and even Tarot (as we know it today) are based on a MARVELOUS deck, which is usual playing cards! No deck can beat this elegant tool in terms of timing! So, I don't get the point why bother with other decks when this is the one you will ever need. Of course, Lenormand and Tarot are very good too. Waite's Tarot lacks of practicality in terms of predicting events (he was not a true card reader, just a scholar). Playing cards win here (event-oriented readings)!
However, his deck is quite beautiful and can be used in various ways. It is versatile enough.
Etteilla's Tarot: is VERY interesting..I'm still working on it, and it's much better than Waite's.
My personal favorite so far is "The Brotherhood of light Tarot". Hermetic teachings here and very practical!
The "petit lenormand" is an everyday oracle, VERY useful and flexible (not to omit that each card is associated with a playing card-coincidence? maybe..maybe not). Personal favorite!
Kipperkarten: that's nice. It can show events, people, and of course timing. Lenormand and Sibilla della Zingara based oracle deck (36 cards in this one). Used it once or twice. It's ok, but not for me..
Sibilla della Zingara: very beautiful, based on a simple playing card deck(52 cards in it). It's actually the "italian way of reading playing cards", accompanied with pictures to help you through the reading. Still learning and studying! Another personal favorite!
The Playing Card Oracle by Ana Cortez: Honestly, I haven't read this book yet. But, they say it's a very unique approach to cartomancy. For example, she relates 10s to young females in order to achieve a balance between male and female court cards. That's interesting I must say!
I hope you find what you are looking for. I know I made a long way.. My best wishes to all members

[PsychicLord]

Ascertaining the timing of events etc., can be difficult for many individuals. Some decks are not so well suited for timing, whereas other are more so.

Oracle-X, for example, helps to overcome this by having a special (and simple)identification on all cards that have a timing connection. When a grid, or one or more runes are yellow coloured, this indicates that the card has a role in 'timing'. These include cards such as: Schedule; Harvest; Signal; Wheel; Awareness; Railroad; Delay. From July 2012, the seasons: Spring; Summer; Autumn; and Winter will be available. Each new release of cards will introduce more cards with a timing role.

Another way of achieving the 'timing' element is to use spreads that include time based milestones. The 'Short Reading', and The 'Long Reading' both fulfil this purpose (both can be found via a Google search).

[sammyofnyc]

It has been a long time since I was in this thread due to a long term illness but I want to thank everyone for taking the time to answer my questions. I deeply appreciate it very much. God bless everyone. I wish everyone great health, happiness, prosperity, and above all love.

Sammy