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Can we talk about the Italian decks, in particular the Soprafino, Ancient Italian, the Lombardy and any others? I would like to get more familiar with these decks, compare a few and study them for a bit. I know some people here love the Italian decks, which ones do you have, read with (and how do you read with them), and study?

Cerulean, hoping you are able to join in.
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Here's a whole big long thread about just those deck.

http://tarotforum.net/showthread.php?t=106097
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The thread you link to is not exactly the same as the sort of thread I was hoping to start. It's not so much the buying aspect, I was hoping people would discuss them in terms of their part in Tarot History as well as actually reading with them, methods and comparisons in terms of symbolism, rather than which one is preferable taste-wise.

Was there a nearly three hundred year gap (bar the Mitelli deck) between the Visconti/Ferarra decks and the Lombardy, which I believe is from around 1780, where decks were not created or perhaps didn't survive? What was happening in Italy during the time in between? From the notes I have, there were French, Belgian and Swiss decks at that time.

Also, if comparing these deck, as I do with the Marseilles for recognition of which type they can be classified under as well as the symbolism, which other Italian decks are out there so that this exercise could be done?
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Have also found this thread with some great posts by Mark Filipas on the later decks:

http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread...3&page=1&pp=10
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Was there a nearly three hundred year gap (bar the Mitelli deck) between the Visconti/Ferarra decks and the Lombardy, which I believe is from around 1780, where decks were not created or perhaps didn't survive?
I'm sure there were two threads that that mentioned decks (or perhaps the iconograpy- card makers?) during that period.

I've got tons of 'saved' notes... can't find copys of the specific ones I'm thinking of at the moment.

Wasn't there a ban on cards in some countries during that time? (But not all!)

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Thanks Bee, I've been searching and reading both here and in books and unless I'm wrong I can only see the Bolognese Minchiate and Siciliano being used during that time, all of which have an odd number of cards.

As for the more recent decks, it's a shame that the links to Mark Filipas' site don't work in the thread I linked in my last post, it would be good to see the differences and similarities between the decks he mentions.
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There are some comparisons of each card here,

http://www.albideuter.de/html/gehangter.html

Perhaps doesn't cover that period of time, but maybe worth a look.

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P.S. Had a thought - I think this was posted recently..... it's in my bookmarks, don't know how long I've had it.
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Other online places for Mark Filipas;

I realise that these sites/articles/pics are well known (i.e. bookmarked) with a lot of people, but for some they may be 'new', and helpful.

A History Of Egyptian Tarot Decks
http://www.meta-religion.com/Esoteri...tarot_deck.htm.

Marks page about The Tarocchino Milanese Lexicon (Hebrew + Marsielle deck)
http://www.spiritone.com/~mfilipas/M...says/iota.html

THE 'TarotL' HISTORY INFORMATION SHEET
http://www.villarevak.org/misc/tarotl_1.html

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Ah yes! I bookmarked this site recently too (the albideuter one), and didn't realise it has some of the Soprafino and Ancient Italian cards.
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Found this at a site that lists card games from around the world, has some interesting pages re. the structure of card decks (places and times). This page is the one for Italian decks:

http://www.pagat.com/national/italy.html

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