MT's "Missing Persons" Thread

MantraTarot · 20-04-2012

*** PLEASE NOTE: this thread is not intended for reading requests (i.e. "where is my ex-boyfriend now and how is he doing?..."). i actually intended this thread to be for legitimate missing person cases where the person has been kidnapped, vanished without any forewarning, or suspected dead via foul play. please no more missing persons AND/OR animal request readings unless this applies to you and your situation, or a news story you are curious about. i do not mind doing missing animal readings, however i would ask that if your pet has NOT gone missing RECENTLY (within the past 7 days), do not ask in this thread. i love animals and know it's good to receive comfort regarding the missing pet's whereabouts, however those types of readings could easily be done in the exchange threads, which would help greatly to free up time on my part for this thread and its original purpose. i'd really like to keep this thread opened for actual missing persons cases in the news, and let a dialogue open up and have other readers contribute their $0.02 with their findings. if i accept the other reading requests, it really drains me and i can't work on the other cases i had originally hoped to explore on this thread with everyone else. thanks. ***

a few years ago i used to do a lot of missing persons readings... everything from caylee anthony to etan patz to you name it. i stopped doing the readings b/c i wasn't sure if i was just wasting my time doing them or not since they were just kinda floating on my hard drive and being forgotten. i remember trying to go to a message board for missing children cases and i was promptly "burned at the stake" for posting my readings there. no amount of disclaimers were good enough and i got the hint that anything "psychic-related" had a bad rap and negative connotation. i agreed, because i thought, "well, if the parents of the children are reading these, it's not fair/right to them, since i am in no way guaranteeing what i see." so i stopped doing the readings on the cold cases and that was that.

anyway, i figure a couple years have passed and i'm feeling as if my skills as a reader/intuitive have grown even stronger. i'd like to ear mark this thread for my "cold cases" and use this space to play around. i figure it's better than keeping them quiet and under lock and key on my hard drive... at least i could possibly have fellow readers join in on the action and contribute their $0.02 as well.

okay, well i just wanted get this intro post to the thread started today so i'd remember to come back this weekend and start another case. i'll be using a variety of techniques to analyze the cases, so that's why this thread is in this forum and not just the tarot forum.

if anyone wants to jump in at any time with some of their insights, feel free.

thanks!

**JadoreHauteCouture** · 29-04-2012

could you please tell me whether my cat is alive :,-( and if yes, where he is... he got lost couple years ago and we havent heard of him since them

((( I grew up with him so I miss him very much.

MantraTarot · 29-04-2012

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Originally Posted by JadoreHauteCouture

could you please tell me whether my cat is alive :,-( and if yes, where he is... he got lost couple years ago and we havent heard of him since them

((( I grew up with him so I miss him very much.

oh, sure, JHC.

i was just about to open up this thread and start a case today, so i'll be more than happy to do yours. i am a huge animal lover and i know how our pets are so very dear to us. i will try my best. give me a few hours. i should start it soon and have it completed for tonight.

**JadoreHauteCouture** · 29-04-2012

thank you SO much <3 you have no idea how much it means to me...

MantraTarot · 29-04-2012

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Originally Posted by JadoreHauteCouture

could you please tell me whether my cat is alive :,-( and if yes, where he is... he got lost couple years ago and we havent heard of him since them

((( I grew up with him so I miss him very much.

okay... i haven't done this in a while, so bear with me here. i'm so used to using only the tarot as my crutch that i'm kinda wobbly.

first, i want to get to know your cat... possibly try to get a name. let's see what happens.

okay. i want to say that the name begins with a "T"? if not begins, then perhaps somewhere in his name. perhaps i'm just thinking of a "tom cat" and the name tom keeps popping into my head. i dunno. but it's a start for me to get warmed up.

how's he look... hmmm... i want to say he has white in his coat, if not totally white. not sure if i'm totally off regarding this.

i feel pulled to use some itunes divination and an angel card to help answer your first question.

i drew the MIRACLES card.

as for the song, i got: "cybernetic" by grum.

okay, i think this not only answers the question of him still being alive, but i also think that there may be (or have been) someone looking for his owner.

i also pulled some tarot cards to clarify:

death / disappointment rx
base: knight swords

okay... here's the scoop. i intuitively really feel that your cat is still alive, and he is being cared for someone right now... some young guy... probably a tech guru of sorts... he rescued your cat by starting to feed him, and it grew from there. he healed and became healthier and a part of that man's household. he may not necessarily be living *inside* with him though, but he is being cared for.

i feel that if you try to search online (although since time has passed you may not find any trace of this) you may find someone was looking for you to come claim him. maybe google where you live (or there abouts) and do something like this:

lost cat found [the area he may have been lost]

and just see if anything interesting comes up. it may not lead you directly to him, but may give you some ideas of where to start asking around. internet/technology seems to be an important thing here though, and i'm assuming it is referring to *how* to find him.

i would also just throw in some common sense advice and go as far as to say check some local animal shelters within a 25 mile radius from your home for good measure.

lastly, i just wanna draw a card to see if you will be able to find him:

5 swords rx
base: strength rx

i see these cards saying that he may come back on his own one day. it's almost as if to say when you least expect it, he will pop up out of nowhere. i'm not sure when. i feel it will be during a cold, snowy evening though. you may ignore sounds coming from the outside of the house, but you will decide to go investigate. there you will see him again. you may not recognize him immediately, but it'll click.

okay... now my disclaimer. please take this reading with a grain of salt. the last thing i ever want to do is get anyone's hopes up and give out false information. but intuitively speaking i do feel that your cat is alive and well. i honestly didn't get any flashes of pain or death or whatever. and i see that death card popping up as a good thing; he may have been on death's doorstep, but someone started to look out for him and care for him. so he's good. and i did clearly see a scene where you were reunited again. when? i'm not sure. but definitely wintertime.

i'll make sure to say a prayer for you and your cat and hopefully, if it's meant to be, that you are reunited again on this earth again.

thanks for sitting for me. if you have any more questions let me know.

**JadoreHauteCouture** · 30-04-2012

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Originally Posted by MantraTarot

okay. i want to say that the name begins with a "T"? if not begins, then perhaps somewhere in his name. perhaps i'm just thinking of a "tom cat" and the name tom keeps popping into my head. i dunno. but it's a start for me to get warmed up.

>>>>> hehe, im cat's name is actually Versace (dont laugh xD what do you expect from a person with nickname JadoreHauteCouture

) anyhoo, my name is Tomas or Tom so actually youre right.... not Tom cat but Tom's cat

how's he look... hmmm... i want to say he has white in his coat, if not totally white. not sure if i'm totally off regarding this.

>>>>> and yes

he has some white on him

that was good one too

im enclosing picture if it helps:
http://img220.imagevenue.com/img.php...122_1010lo.jpg
(he is a little bit bigger, we spoilt him a lot) <3

okay, i think this not only answers the question of him still being alive, but i also think that there may be (or have been) someone looking for his owner.

>>>>> oh, i hope... he disappeared when we were visiting our Grandma in the country... he ran out of car and never came back

(( we actually brought 2 cats to our grandma but another one came back after 3 months.. however, Versace didnt

((

death / disappointment rx
base: knight swords

okay... here's the scoop. i intuitively really feel that your cat is still alive, and he is being cared for someone right now... some young guy... probably a tech guru of sorts... he rescued your cat by starting to feed him, and it grew from there. he healed and became healthier and a part of that man's household. he may not necessarily be living *inside* with him though, but he is being cared for.

i feel that if you try to search online (although since time has passed you may not find any trace of this) you may find someone was looking for you to come claim him. maybe google where you live (or there abouts) and do something like this:
lost cat found [the area he may have been lost]
and just see if anything interesting comes up. it may not lead you directly to him, but may give you some ideas of where to start asking around. internet/technology seems to be an important thing here though, and i'm assuming it is referring to *how* to find him.
i would also just throw in some common sense advice and go as far as to say check some local animal shelters within a 25 mile radius from your home for good measure.

>>>> yeah, weve been looking for him there too but since its a small village, not really that many people use internet for it, nothing in the shelters... we asked people in the village and no one seen him... its been couple years now

lastly, i just wanna draw a card to see if you will be able to find him:
5 swords rx
base: strength rx
i see these cards saying that he may come back on his own one day. it's almost as if to say when you least expect it, he will pop up out of nowhere. i'm not sure when. i feel it will be during a cold, snowy evening though. you may ignore sounds coming from the outside of the house, but you will decide to go investigate. there you will see him again. you may not recognize him immediately, but it'll click.

>>>>> oh, that would be amazing news if he came back... thanks for saying that... i do miss him a lot... he was my closest pet ever... I will watch out for him in winter

okay... now my disclaimer. please take this reading with a grain of salt. the last thing i ever want to do is get anyone's hopes up and give out false information. but intuitively speaking i do feel that your cat is alive and well. i honestly didn't get any flashes of pain or death or whatever. and i see that death card popping up as a good thing; he may have been on death's doorstep, but someone started to look out for him and care for him. so he's good. and i did clearly see a scene where you were reunited again. when? i'm not sure. but definitely wintertime.

i'll make sure to say a prayer for you and your cat and hopefully, if it's meant to be, that you are reunited again on this earth again.

>>>> thank you for praying for me... you are so nice and i really appreciate both this reading bringing some light into the case and your willingness and kind heart <3 thank you again

my feedback in the reply above

thank you for being so kind...

MantraTarot · 30-04-2012

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Originally Posted by JadoreHauteCouture

>>>>> hehe, im cat's name is actually Versace (dont laugh xD what do you expect from a person with nickname JadoreHauteCouture ) anyhoo, my name is Tomas or Tom so actually youre right.... not Tom cat but Tom's cat

haha... oh boy... well, that's the problem with being an empath. if you don't focus *exactly* where your energies should be flowing, you end up getting the sitter's info instead of the 3rd party. i told ya i was out of practice.

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Originally Posted by JadoreHauteCouture

>>>>> and yes he has some white on him that was good one too im enclosing picture if it helps:
http://img220.imagevenue.com/img.php...122_1010lo.jpg
(he is a little bit bigger, we spoilt him a lot) <3

awwwww!!!! WANT TO RUB DA BELLY!!!!

so cute. thanks for posting the picture.

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Originally Posted by JadoreHauteCouture

>>>>> oh, i hope... he disappeared when we were visiting our Grandma in the country... he ran out of car and never came back (( we actually brought 2 cats to our grandma but another one came back after 3 months.. however, Versace didnt ((

so sad. my little one (doggie) is here looking at me typing and slightly whimpering... she wants me to take her outside to play and is acting all like, "mommy... i'm being VERY patient... but i HEARD you say 'outside' and i'm REALLY starting to get upset." yeah... they are like our little angel children. i know i would be heartbroken if i was in your shoes. but the one good thing about cats vs. dogs is that they are very resilient and are survivors. they don't rely on humans as much as dogs do to survive at times, so i'm sure versace is okay and getting by on his instincts.

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Originally Posted by JadoreHauteCouture

>>>> yeah, weve been looking for him there too but since its a small village, not really that many people use internet for it, nothing in the shelters... we asked people in the village and no one seen him... its been couple years now

hmmm... i still feel someone is caring for him. i mean, versace could really be hundreds of miles away even. i remember seeing news stories here and there about animals (cats and dogs) returning to their owners after years of being away. one dog even swam across a body of water and was reunited!

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Originally Posted by JadoreHauteCouture

>>>>> oh, that would be amazing news if he came back... thanks for saying that... i do miss him a lot... he was my closest pet ever... I will watch out for him in winter

i know it sounds weird, but you are a talented psychic and animals (esp. cats) are very psychic. see if you can "speed up" the progress and kinda "talk" to him in a meditative state. see what he tells you. maybe he's happy where he's at and the new guy is feeding him lots of good meow mix and he's not ready to leave just yet.

but if you put that vibe out there, maybe he'll realize it's time to come back to tom.

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Originally Posted by JadoreHauteCouture

>>>> thank you for praying for me... you are so nice and i really appreciate both this reading bringing some light into the case and your willingness and kind heart <3 thank you again

aww, you are so welcome. i truly hope versace comes back to you to give you some closure as well as hugs and kisses and purrs.

good luck and you two will be in my thoughts.

p.s. did you get your s/n from a recent episode from PROJECT RUNWAY: ALL STARS? i could have sworn i've heard that before... austin scarlett, perhaps?

MantraTarot · 30-04-2012

okay, i wanted to start with this case because i thought i should go for something current and fresh right now. that way, if any updates come in, i can gauge how accurate the reads are (yeah, selfish motive, but i need to get some feedback in order to go on to the older cases; i.e. validation).

when i start a missing persons case, i like to get the minimal amount of info possible. why? because i don't want anything coloring my reads too much. i do need *something* to go on... some sort of background in order to get the ball rolling and to know which questions to ask. however, i tend to just read one article and that's that. anything else is overkill. plus i really don't trust the media and what information they release anyway, so again i don't want it to have an influence on my readings. just like i don't like looking at peoples' profiles or previous posts on the AT forum; i like to read with as little info as possible for people so it's fair and organic in nature, not influenced by their own words.

anyway, so i decided to go to http://nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com/ and look for a case. the website has a MP case for isabel celis. i decided to go with that one.

okay, now that that spiel is over, let's begin...

subject's name is: isabel celis

age: 6

last seen: april 20th, 2012
(put to bed somewhere b/t 11pm friday and 8am saturday)

family: mother and father, as well as 2 brothers and 3 dogs. live in tuscon, AZ, USA.

what happened the night of the abudction?: little league game, everything's fine, and isabel was put to bed around 11pm.

possible leads?: a neighbor heard 2 male voices in the middle of the night near the home.

now... onto the questions...

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the first one i always ask in a missing persons case is if they are alive. it's really hard sometimes to gauge this one, esp. for a fresh case. sometimes i'm off b/c the person is ill, or the person is scared to death, or the person is going to die but hasn't yet. it's all about timing with fresh MP cases.

so... is she alive?
3 wands
base: hanged man

yep. which is strange to get for two reasons:
1. one of the theories on the site said that a neighbor heard 2 men outside the house that evening... 3 wands makes me think she is with 2 men and she is in good health.
2. the videos on the site made it sound like she was already dead with the cadaver sniffing dogs, so it's good to see positive cards...

HOWEVER...

the base card has me worried. it's the hanged man. it has me having the phrase "time's running out" flashing in my mind. she may be okay right now, but could possible take a turn for the worse soon if whomever has her panics.

is she in the landfill?
just to make sure, i'm going to read on this since police were looking for her body there in the articles...

queen cups
base: king swords

nope. she's not not in the landfills nor dead (at the moment at least).

why was she taken?

10 swords / page pents
base: knight cups rx

i was hoping this wasn't right... well... the base card is about "evil" and "inhuman activity" and "immaturity." the 10 swords just reminds me of them doing very sick things to the girl, while the girl is represented by that page of pents. they want something from her or her family, but with the other cards here, i'm going to say something from her. obviously, for a 6 year old, it ain't money either.

who took her?

strength / 2 cups
base: star

so interesting... so so interesting. not what i was expecting at least, but it does make sense. it was definitely someone the family trusted. they don't suspect them at all. i'd say from the strength card it has to do with "children activities" so someone associated with that little league she was in. it makes even more sense considering that's the last thing she was doing before the abduction took place. i'm going to say friends of her parents, too. someone they'd never think in a million years would be a pedo or whatnot. i don't think even the cops suspect this person/people. that's how cool this person/people is acting.

just to make sure, are the parents involved?

hierophant
base: devil rx

nah. they are free and clear.

are the brothers or perhaps their friends involved in the abduction at all?

5 pents rx / 6 pents
base: 8 cups

nah... they wouldn't do something like that. they would help before ever hurting.

okay, so the big validating question: is anyone from her little league involved?

8 wands / temperance
base: 8 swords rx

i'd say yeah. and this wasn't something they really premeditated all that much. it was weighing on their mind and i think they let their fantasies run away with them and it went too far. they really want to let her go without hurting her, hoping this will all blow over, but they know they are going to get in trouble.

did she know her abductor(s)?

5 wands rx
base: devil rx

interesting. they weren't DIRECTLY involved in the little league stuff... but were a part of it. perhaps a friend of a friend at the game sorta deal. definitely some perv watching a kids game and scoping out a target. and, no, i don't think she knew the person(s). again, the parents might or people in the little league might, but i don't think she knew them, but they sweet talked her into going without resistance.

so what do the people look like/names/anything?

2 swords rx / 4 swords
base: king swords rx

this guy (or guys) has a criminal record already. think he's a sex offender. BLUE is coming across loud and clear here. could have a blue tattoo that's unusual or just very clear blue eyes.

as for a name, now i'm gonna try to meditate on this...

i wanna say it starts with a "K". maybe even the first name is "kurt"?... but i also saw an "O" in the first name... so i'm not too sure right now...

does that red hatch-back car have anything to do with this?

queen wands / 10 pents rx
base: hermit rx

yeah, the car does... i think that's where they may have tried to initially do something to isabel...

however they thought things through and decided to move location. and that's how things progressively got worse.

what physical state is isabel in now?

10 wands rx
base: hanged man rx

uh oh... i don't like seeing that hanged man rx, although i'm getting a semi-good feeling from this. i honestly want to say they left her somewhere by herself. they just dumped her off somewhere. she's by herself. i don't think she's dead... yet. i think they are hoping someone will find her and she won't remember any of it or tell on them/him/whatever. i almost feel as if they "left her in the desert somewhere" and figure they aren't really killing her if she dies out there on her own. although, wood is VERY important in all of this. wood. definitely something to do with where she's at now, but still in an arid, desert-like place.

is she still within a 25 mile radius of her home?

2 wands
base: devil

she's closer than that, even. i want to say, "on the other side of town" but away from homes and the actual living population. she's kinda trapped in her situation right now, yet free. i can't explain it better than that.

what does it look like where she is at now/where is she then?

2 wands / page swords / judgement
base: 9 swords rx

she's north, on the "other side [of town]" but go east... it's near a church in the middle of nowhere.

as for meditation sake....

yeah... for some reason that wood is coming back in the form of church pews... sounds strange, but... yeah...

i want to say that the town's name beings with a "B"?... i will look on a map for cities within a 25 mile radius that start with the letter B or have B in it (towards the NE)....

okay, i saw there's a BERRY ACRES or something... could be around there. i guess check churches around berry acres????...

funny, i googled "berry acres, az churches" in maps.google.com, and there's a bunch of churches clustered together there. so, i dunno... but that's what i'm getting. maybe she's not there, but maybe there's clues to finding out who this "K" person is...?

anything else to know about the case that would help police?

(meditative)

something about a jumpsuit. not sure if it's something isabel is wearing/was wearing, or something the abductor is wearing/was wearing, but that's an important item to help bring things together.

lastly, will isabel be returned safe and sound to her family?

moon rx / ace pents
base: wheel rx

oh, i don't like that. when i see the wheel rx, it's like it's going to take a turn for the worse. it's almost as if it's saying, "if she's not found in a fourth night, they pretty much can forget about it." so i googled "fourth night" and that's 2 weeks. may 2nd will be the 2 week mark. the ace pents i suggesting that they think of new leads b/c what they're doing now is way off. i think they're thinking it's like some mexican mafia that abducts children for ransom, but that's not the case. again, it's something/someone they're not expecting.

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okay, i'm done for now. not sure how accurate this is at all, but it's a learning environment. all we can do now is say some prayers that if isabel is still alive that she will be returned home soon safe and sound to her family.

if any other readers wish to chime in with their own readings/feelings on this, go right ahead.

thanks.

MantraTarot · 30-04-2012

*"fortnight", not "fourth night".

gotta love typing while under the influence of diet orange crush.

actually, i thought it was "fort night" then googled it and "fourth night" appeared, so i was like, "wow, i'm way off, aren't i?!" haaha.

anyway... i shall return next week with another case (or sooner depending upon the news with isabel's whereabouts).

**loaa boa** · 30-04-2012

This is really interesting and thank you for starting the thread!

I also wonder what happened to a pet that disappeared? I was away on holiday and my daughter and friend were taking care of him and he was lost. His name is Chase and he is a black and white papillon. This happened in 2004-2005.

MantraTarot Citizen Join Date: 23 Dec 2008 Location: the present Posts: 10,219	MT's "Missing Persons" Thread * PLEASE NOTE: this thread is not intended for reading requests (i.e. "where is my ex-boyfriend now and how is he doing?..."). i actually intended this thread to be for legitimate missing person cases where the person has been kidnapped, vanished without any forewarning, or suspected dead via foul play. please no more missing persons AND/OR animal request readings unless this applies to you and your situation, or a news story you are curious about.** i do not mind doing missing animal readings, however i would ask that if your pet has NOT gone missing RECENTLY (within the past 7 days), do not ask in this thread. i love animals and know it's good to receive comfort regarding the missing pet's whereabouts, however those types of readings could easily be done in the exchange threads, which would help greatly to free up time on my part for this thread and its original purpose. i'd really like to keep this thread opened for actual missing persons cases in the news, and let a dialogue open up and have other readers contribute their $0.02 with their findings. if i accept the other reading requests, it really drains me and i can't work on the other cases i had originally hoped to explore on this thread with everyone else. thanks. ******* a few years ago i used to do a lot of missing persons readings... everything from caylee anthony to etan patz to you name it. i stopped doing the readings b/c i wasn't sure if i was just wasting my time doing them or not since they were just kinda floating on my hard drive and being forgotten. i remember trying to go to a message board for missing children cases and i was promptly "burned at the stake" for posting my readings there. no amount of disclaimers were good enough and i got the hint that anything "psychic-related" had a bad rap and negative connotation. i agreed, because i thought, "well, if the parents of the children are reading these, it's not fair/right to them, since i am in no way guaranteeing what i see." so i stopped doing the readings on the cold cases and that was that. anyway, i figure a couple years have passed and i'm feeling as if my skills as a reader/intuitive have grown even stronger. i'd like to ear mark this thread for my "cold cases" and use this space to play around. i figure it's better than keeping them quiet and under lock and key on my hard drive... at least i could possibly have fellow readers join in on the action and contribute their $0.02 as well. okay, well i just wanted get this intro post to the thread started today so i'd remember to come back this weekend and start another case. i'll be using a variety of techniques to analyze the cases, so that's why this thread is in this forum and not just the tarot forum. if anyone wants to jump in at any time with some of their insights, feel free. thanks! __________________ "i saw that." ~ karma Last edited by MantraTarot; 29-05-2012 at 00:18.

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JadoreHauteCouture Single and ready to mingle! Join Date: 12 Apr 2012 Location: Prague Posts: 1,219	could you please tell me whether my cat is alive :,-( and if yes, where he is... he got lost couple years ago and we havent heard of him since them ((( I grew up with him so I miss him very much. __________________ Enlighten yourself...

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JadoreHauteCouture Single and ready to mingle! Join Date: 12 Apr 2012 Location: Prague Posts: 1,219	thank you SO much <3 you have no idea how much it means to me... __________________ Enlighten yourself...

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MantraTarot Citizen Join Date: 23 Dec 2008 Location: the present Posts: 10,219	#1 isabel celis okay, i wanted to start with this case because i thought i should go for something current and fresh right now. that way, if any updates come in, i can gauge how accurate the reads are (yeah, selfish motive, but i need to get some feedback in order to go on to the older cases; i.e. validation). when i start a missing persons case, i like to get the minimal amount of info possible. why? because i don't want anything coloring my reads too much. i do need something to go on... some sort of background in order to get the ball rolling and to know which questions to ask. however, i tend to just read one article and that's that. anything else is overkill. plus i really don't trust the media and what information they release anyway, so again i don't want it to have an influence on my readings. just like i don't like looking at peoples' profiles or previous posts on the AT forum; i like to read with as little info as possible for people so it's fair and organic in nature, not influenced by their own words. anyway, so i decided to go to http://nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com/ and look for a case. the website has a MP case for isabel celis. i decided to go with that one. okay, now that that spiel is over, let's begin... subject's name is: isabel celis age: 6 last seen: april 20th, 2012 (put to bed somewhere b/t 11pm friday and 8am saturday) family: mother and father, as well as 2 brothers and 3 dogs. live in tuscon, AZ, USA. what happened the night of the abudction?: little league game, everything's fine, and isabel was put to bed around 11pm. possible leads?: a neighbor heard 2 male voices in the middle of the night near the home. now... onto the questions... --- the first one i always ask in a missing persons case is if they are alive. it's really hard sometimes to gauge this one, esp. for a fresh case. sometimes i'm off b/c the person is ill, or the person is scared to death, or the person is going to die but hasn't yet. it's all about timing with fresh MP cases. so... is she alive? 3 wands base: hanged man yep. which is strange to get for two reasons: 1. one of the theories on the site said that a neighbor heard 2 men outside the house that evening... 3 wands makes me think she is with 2 men and she is in good health. 2. the videos on the site made it sound like she was already dead with the cadaver sniffing dogs, so it's good to see positive cards... HOWEVER... the base card has me worried. it's the hanged man. it has me having the phrase "time's running out" flashing in my mind. she may be okay right now, but could possible take a turn for the worse soon if whomever has her panics. is she in the landfill? just to make sure, i'm going to read on this since police were looking for her body there in the articles... queen cups base: king swords nope. she's not not in the landfills nor dead (at the moment at least). why was she taken? 10 swords / page pents base: knight cups rx i was hoping this wasn't right... well... the base card is about "evil" and "inhuman activity" and "immaturity." the 10 swords just reminds me of them doing very sick things to the girl, while the girl is represented by that page of pents. they want something from her or her family, but with the other cards here, i'm going to say something from her. obviously, for a 6 year old, it ain't money either. who took her? strength / 2 cups base: star so interesting... so so interesting. not what i was expecting at least, but it does make sense. it was definitely someone the family trusted. they don't suspect them at all. i'd say from the strength card it has to do with "children activities" so someone associated with that little league she was in. it makes even more sense considering that's the last thing she was doing before the abduction took place. i'm going to say friends of her parents, too. someone they'd never think in a million years would be a pedo or whatnot. i don't think even the cops suspect this person/people. that's how cool this person/people is acting. just to make sure, are the parents involved? hierophant base: devil rx nah. they are free and clear. are the brothers or perhaps their friends involved in the abduction at all? 5 pents rx / 6 pents base: 8 cups nah... they wouldn't do something like that. they would help before ever hurting. okay, so the big validating question: is anyone from her little league involved? 8 wands / temperance base: 8 swords rx i'd say yeah. and this wasn't something they really premeditated all that much. it was weighing on their mind and i think they let their fantasies run away with them and it went too far. they really want to let her go without hurting her, hoping this will all blow over, but they know they are going to get in trouble. did she know her abductor(s)? 5 wands rx base: devil rx interesting. they weren't DIRECTLY involved in the little league stuff... but were a part of it. perhaps a friend of a friend at the game sorta deal. definitely some perv watching a kids game and scoping out a target. and, no, i don't think she knew the person(s). again, the parents might or people in the little league might, but i don't think she knew them, but they sweet talked her into going without resistance. so what do the people look like/names/anything? 2 swords rx / 4 swords base: king swords rx this guy (or guys) has a criminal record already. think he's a sex offender. BLUE is coming across loud and clear here. could have a blue tattoo that's unusual or just very clear blue eyes. as for a name, now i'm gonna try to meditate on this... i wanna say it starts with a "K". maybe even the first name is "kurt"?... but i also saw an "O" in the first name... so i'm not too sure right now... does that red hatch-back car have anything to do with this? queen wands / 10 pents rx base: hermit rx yeah, the car does... i think that's where they may have tried to initially do something to isabel... however they thought things through and decided to move location. and that's how things progressively got worse. what physical state is isabel in now? 10 wands rx base: hanged man rx uh oh... i don't like seeing that hanged man rx, although i'm getting a semi-good feeling from this. i honestly want to say they left her somewhere by herself. they just dumped her off somewhere. she's by herself. i don't think she's dead... yet. i think they are hoping someone will find her and she won't remember any of it or tell on them/him/whatever. i almost feel as if they "left her in the desert somewhere" and figure they aren't really killing her if she dies out there on her own. although, wood is VERY important in all of this. wood. definitely something to do with where she's at now, but still in an arid, desert-like place. is she still within a 25 mile radius of her home? 2 wands base: devil she's closer than that, even. i want to say, "on the other side of town" but away from homes and the actual living population. she's kinda trapped in her situation right now, yet free. i can't explain it better than that. what does it look like where she is at now/where is she then? 2 wands / page swords / judgement base: 9 swords rx she's north, on the "other side [of town]" but go east... it's near a church in the middle of nowhere. as for meditation sake.... yeah... for some reason that wood is coming back in the form of church pews... sounds strange, but... yeah... i want to say that the town's name beings with a "B"?... i will look on a map for cities within a 25 mile radius that start with the letter B or have B in it (towards the NE).... okay, i saw there's a BERRY ACRES or something... could be around there. i guess check churches around berry acres????... funny, i googled "berry acres, az churches" in maps.google.com, and there's a bunch of churches clustered together there. so, i dunno... but that's what i'm getting. maybe she's not there, but maybe there's clues to finding out who this "K" person is...? anything else to know about the case that would help police? (meditative) something about a jumpsuit. not sure if it's something isabel is wearing/was wearing, or something the abductor is wearing/was wearing, but that's an important item to help bring things together. lastly, will isabel be returned safe and sound to her family? moon rx / ace pents base: wheel rx oh, i don't like that. when i see the wheel rx, it's like it's going to take a turn for the worse. it's almost as if it's saying, "if she's not found in a fourth night, they pretty much can forget about it." so i googled "fourth night" and that's 2 weeks. may 2nd will be the 2 week mark. the ace pents i suggesting that they think of new leads b/c what they're doing now is way off. i think they're thinking it's like some mexican mafia that abducts children for ransom, but that's not the case. again, it's something/someone they're not expecting. --- okay, i'm done for now. not sure how accurate this is at all, but it's a learning environment. all we can do now is say some prayers that if isabel is still alive that she will be returned home soon safe and sound to her family. if any other readers wish to chime in with their own readings/feelings on this, go right ahead. thanks. __________________ "i saw that." ~ karma

30-04-2012	Ask a Professional Tarot Reader Top #8

MantraTarot Citizen Join Date: 23 Dec 2008 Location: the present Posts: 10,219	*"fortnight", not "fourth night". gotta love typing while under the influence of diet orange crush. actually, i thought it was "fort night" then googled it and "fourth night" appeared, so i was like, "wow, i'm way off, aren't i?!" haaha. anyway... i shall return next week with another case (or sooner depending upon the news with isabel's whereabouts). __________________ "i saw that." ~ karma

30-04-2012	Ask a Professional Tarot Reader Top #9

loaa boa Resident Join Date: 27 Sep 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 417	This is really interesting and thank you for starting the thread! I also wonder what happened to a pet that disappeared? I was away on holiday and my daughter and friend were taking care of him and he was lost. His name is Chase and he is a black and white papillon. This happened in 2004-2005.

30-04-2012	Ask a Professional Tarot Reader Top #10

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