Doreen Virtue's Angel Tarot

[gregory]

Originally Posted by Zezina

Sorry, Miss Divine (was her post removed?)

It's still there...

But IS a totally positive Tarot still Tarot ? I'm not at all sure.

[PathWalker]

Originally Posted by gregory

Still - I do feel a curious sense of anticipation, just the same....

Take Imodium NOW before it's too late

[Zezina]

Originally Posted by gregory

But IS a totally positive Tarot still Tarot ? I'm not at all sure.

gregory, are you seriously suggesting that all those astrological symbols on the Angel Tarot cards are totally positive?

[PathWalker]

Originally Posted by Zezina

gregory, are you seriously suggesting that all those astrological symbols on the Angel Tarot cards are totally positive?

But not all tarot readers use astrological assosiations with tarot, certainly not the newer more xtian ones - so that signifigance would be lost on them. I think the folks who this deck is aimed at are going to be using the 'safe and gentle' keywords?

[gregory]

Originally Posted by Zezina

gregory, are you seriously suggesting that all those astrological symbols on the Angel Tarot cards are totally positive?

No idea - see below. I don't use them anyway. She says all the meanings are gentle - and not everything EVER can be - and she can't even mention the devil ?

Originally Posted by PathWalker

But not all tarot readers use astrological associations with tarot, certainly not the newer more xtian ones - so that significance would be lost on them. I think the folks who this deck is aimed at are going to be using the 'safe and gentle' keywords?

What she said.

[TreeLeafe]

Originally Posted by Zezina

and for many adults who would never buy a regular Tarot deck. And having seen that, may then move to other regular Tarot decks.

You have a point, I may not have waited a year or so after getting my first oracle deck (Yes, it was an angel deck), if I saw one with the type of marketing and theme that DV has put out with the Angel Tarot.

[TreeLeafe]

Originally Posted by gregory

It's still there...

But IS a totally positive Tarot still Tarot ? I'm not at all sure.

Is there a totally positive anything?

When I use her angel cards, I do put negative meanings on them. My spread that I use mentions blockages/obstacles in a persons life and so I have to intuitively select what negative aspect can that card be telling me. For example, it could be that a person is missing something to do with that card in their life, or focusing way too much on it.

Also her latest deck- the romance angels does have some cards that aren't super happy fun time. I think one deals with cheating/secrets/manipulation and another deals with separating.

[Eyebright]

I think it is great if it brings more people to Tarot, and helps to remove the stigma some people may associate to people who read the cards. BUT if all the meanings are safe and gentle as DV has herself stated then I'm worried these people will get an unrealistic view of what Tarot is... then they may be in for a rude awakening if they then do move on to another deck and see a man with 10 swords sticking out of his back, along with Death and his buddy the Devil grinning out them out of a pack.

Life is not all happy and jolly, so neither should a pack of Tarot cards be either if it is to be of any use to someone. Even the Gummy Bears deck don't pretend that!

[shadowdancer]

Originally Posted by Eyebright

I think it is great if it brings more people to Tarot, and helps to remove the stigma some people may associate to people who read the cards. BUT if all the meanings are safe and gentle as DV has herself stated then I'm worried these people will get an unrealistic view of what Tarot is... then they may be in for a rude awakening if they then do move on to another deck and see a man with 10 swords sticking out of his back, along with Death and his buddy the Devil grinning out them out of a pack.

Life is not all happy and jolly, so neither should a pack of Tarot cards be either if it is to be of any use to someone. Even the Gummy Bears deck don't pretend that!

I had voiced these exact same concerns. I also have a concern if it sells well, (which it will) it will cause floodgates to open with potentially half a dozen such fluffy decks following over the next couple of years. It really could be the next money spinner for her and her publishing house. Simple formula of popular system + popular and known name = likely success.

However, I don't want to be totally cynical. I want to see if there is any positive here to find. If this particular deck does act as a gateway for people to become interested in tarot who would not have otherwise been, is that a bad thing?

I do think this deck has nice artwork but that is all it does for me. Nice artwork. And it is artwork she has churned out time and time again anyway. For those who read using keywords and titles may find they can work with this deck okay, so the artwork may well be secondary. Those who like to dive into the image and let their imagination go into film/story telling mode may well struggle.

Watch this space I guess.

[gregory]

Originally Posted by TreeLeafe

Is there a totally positive anything?

When I use her angel cards, I do put negative meanings on them. My spread that I use mentions blockages/obstacles in a persons life and so I have to intuitively select what negative aspect can that card be telling me. For example, it could be that a person is missing something to do with that card in their life, or focusing way too much on it.

Also her latest deck- the romance angels does have some cards that aren't super happy fun time. I think one deals with cheating/secrets/manipulation and another deals with separating.

No there isn't. But Tarot cards - some of them are almost specifically - not NEGATIVE as such but NOT positive. Ten swords, Tower, Devil...

As someone said - for total positivity you are looking more at an oracle deck.