Doreen Virtue's Angel Tarot

[Zezina]

Originally Posted by Patrick Booker

'The Thirteenth Fairy' - is this another type of angel?And she realised that she had pricked her finger - a tiny drop of blood was forming. As she squeezed her finger, she began to feel quite faint...."Patrick

Thank you Patrick - you are SO observant. The Thirteenth Fairy is the card with the image of Doreen on it. If you touch that card, will you live long enough to collect your prize?

Shhhudders...

[TreeLeafe]

Originally Posted by Laura Borealis

I think I've noted all the majors whose names were changed, at least those visible in the video.

The Fool -- The Dreamer
The Hierophant -- Unity
The Hanged Man -- Awakening
Death -- Release
Temperance -- Balance
The Devil -- Ego
The Tower -- Life Experience
Judgement -- Renewal

Like someone noted, she can't bring herself to say "Devil"
"The Ego, which would be, um, usually a DIFFERENT word in the traditional Tarot..."

There's a review in the amazon listing that has all the major arcana (I think) but they're listed as the new names. Not sure if this helps: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/140...ls_o00_s00_i00 it might have one or two that weren't shown.

[NorthernTigress]

I watched the entire video. :eyeroll: Do I get a cookie?

"The Air Element traditionally use images of swords, that We didn't find to be gentle, so We meditated and received Unicorns".

[Sulis]

I watched the video and unsurprisingly, I just don't like the deck but then fairies, angels, unicorns etc never have been my thing at all.. Added to that, I don't like the artwork; it's too pastelly and insipid looking for me. I also dislike the way the Majors and suits are different colours - I think that may affect someone who was scared of pulling 'dangerous' cards - because they can see which suits the cards they are choosing are from.

The thing that I really dislike about these cards though and (more to the point) that video, is the way she infers that regular tarot cards are in some way inherently dangerous.. I really do think that if she feels like that then she should have stuck to producing oracle decks and left tarot to those people who don't find it dangerous. The only reason I can think of that made her venture into tarot, which she has such a low opinion of, is to make money and that does not sit well with me at all.

And as for the words on the cards - I know that there are 'readers' who use her oracle decks (not talking about anyone in particular here so please don't jump on me) who when doing readings, just read the little message from Doreen (oh no, sorry, those messages are from the angels, fairies or unicorns ) and don't actually interpret anything themselves at all..
I can see a glut of DV 'tarot readers' doing exactly the same thing with these... Just what the tarot world needs methinks (heavy sarcasm there).

[Essjay]

Originally Posted by NorthernTigress

I watched the entire video. :eyeroll: Do I get a cookie?

"The Air Element traditionally use images of swords, that We didn't find to be gentle, so We meditated and received Unicorns".

I loved that bit. At night the unicorns horns light up, obviously with a gentle night-light sort of quality. So unicorns don't stab with those horns then?

I think my main problem with this deck is what someone else has just said, that some of the images are reused, resized but basically the same image. I hate that in a deck.

[HOLMES]

in regards to her previous oracles,,

it is true that sometimes it can be hard to relate the cards to the situation, at least in my experiennce. example in the fairies oracle , someone asks a question and the two cards i just pulled are , making new friends, and feeling safe. it can be hard to relate making new friends to a reading..
but then if you see two of pentacles, swords, i look at it sometimes as looking for a partnership.
but then a card here , "feeling safe" might be hard to say except perhaps pick the lesser of two evils, or the greater of two goods in the sense the decision that helps you feel safe.
the pictures on the feeling safe card i find more easier to try to get information from, then the other card though.

two cards i just pulled from the ascended masters oracle ,
choose peace with paramahansa yogananda on it that would be more of a spiritual teaching then saying "oh yes choose peace,, always choose peace" the other card is clear and shield your energy by el moraya ..
that is more to the point and i would advise the client on how to do that.. so it becomes more then just telling people oh you have to do that.

but coming back to her tarot..

on the devil card , i half of the time use it as the ego,, and overcoming the ego,, so i find no trouble having it being called the ego.. perhaps that was my way of trying to make it gentle when reading for clients so they wouldnt' fearful.

I do think that tarot can be dangerious in the sense of the reader can go on a ego trip, (and there is no guarantee that beginners who pick this up after just using oracles and not ever studying the tarot ,, wont' go on such a ego trip as well ).
or we can give the wrong advice when we are beginners but that is the nature of the beast as we learn the tarot.

[Bhavana]

Originally Posted by EightWands

I have one question -

is this deck safe?

Gentle?

I'm still interested because the artwork is absolutely gorgeous. But, as feared, it's toooooo positive! Life isn't all like that. Tarot is Life depicted in 78 cards! And life isn't ALL goodness & light.

It is for some people....or at least some people see it that way. I mean, look at the sales this woman has. Without knocking her, I have to say, it amazes me.

Originally Posted by Zezina

And has Doreen joined our Forum in order to market her new Tarot deck?

I don't see that happening. I think she knows better....and you are right, she has no problem selling her goods. Maybe that is why the video seems so casual, so "oh i am so excited" like she is talking about the weather. She knows her fans will buy anything with her name on it. What I am curious about is why comments have been disabled for the video? Did people slam her and she didn't want any negative points being made about the deck to maybe influence her followers? Hmmmm....

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Well, I watched the first few minutes of the video, read the first page of posts here...I think i have seen all I need to see....the only thing I have left to say is that the words "safe and gentle" are almost always found on laxative packaging.

[vee]

I think what really irritates people is how blatant and fake her marketing is. There are decks on the market that are very gentle and safe, like the Connolly or Lisa Hunts work, but they seem like genuine expressions of their creators vision, not a calculated move to exploit people's fragile emotions.

So I have nothing really against the deck. Personally I think the art is ugly and the concept uninspired, but I know other people might say that about my favorite decks, which is fair. Different strokes. I won't look down on anyone for wanting to use this deck!

But I will continue to view it as an insincere effort, a cynical moneygrabber that has no genuine interest in furthering tarot. And it's not the only deck like that, lest you think I'm picking on Ms. Virtue!

[Zezina]

Originally Posted by Sulis

The only reason I can think of that made her venture into tarot, which she has such a low opinion of, is to make money and that does not sit well with me at all.

Sulis, I'm sure there are many people on this Forum who, given an opportunity to make a lot of money from a niche in the Tarot market, would seize that opportunity. And good on those here who have been able to achieve that - I take my hat off to them. Financial success can bring security and freedom of choice in life, and no-one is ever forced to either buy a Tarot deck, or buy a Tarot reading, so where's the harm?

DV probably ventured into Tarot because her equally improbably-named co-author Radleigh Valentine is a Tarot enthusiast. And the two must be close because her/their dog, who will bring reward to those who find his image on a card, carries Radleigh's surname.

Despite his extraordinarily youthful and innocent appearance, Tarot-loving Radleigh apparently made his own millions as a chartered accountant before he made The Decision to take his life in the direction of being a kindly counsellor to the countless. So despite his talking-the-talk, there must be a brain in that pretty head of his.

I'm intrigued and amused by the appearance of DV's Angel Tarot, and I confess that much of the lot I've written on this thread has been tongue-in-cheek. I know those illustrations are not to my taste, but I also know my young grand-daughter will love them. I'd rather she played with a 78 card DV deck than the DV oracle deck I have been leaving on my studio table when she's here.

At US$11.53 I was prepared to dip my curious toe in the water, which I wouldn't have done if Amazon had been charging US$31.53 for the deck.

It's sad that Angel Tarot will probably wipe most other Tarot decks off booksellers' shelves, but if it happens that will be market forces at work, and that's the reality of life.

The tide of change moves on inexorably, and one cannot hold it back.

[NorthernTigress]

I think the other thing that bugs me is the choice of Fairies for Earth. Fairies are anything but "down to earth". I would have much rather seen Fairies for Air.