Join Date: 15 Feb 2004
Location: NY, US
To confuse things even more, I noticed as I looked through the Hadar and the Camoin decks, that all of Hadar's deniers are the same color...although Hadar calls our friend a chevalier.
Camoin's deniers alternate yellow floral centers and orange floral centers...
Aside from the Camoin As de Deniers and the Deux de Deniers, the three through nine of deniers are all floral centers of yellow...(with a tiny orange one in center)
With the Camoin Dix de Deniers, we have 8 with yellow floral centers (and tiny orange) but two deniers that have the larger orange floral cetner and a tiny yellow.
Camoin's Valet de Deniers holds a denier with the orange center, but the yellow-centered one is buried in the ground.
Camoin's Cavalier has ONLY the orange centered denier fixed in his/her vision ahead. La Reyne holds a yellow centered one and Le Roy looks over his shoulder at an orange centered one in the air, but holds a yellow centered one in his active right hand.
Jodo, in his book, comments on these "floating" deniers as
"stars" in space, representing the material becoming
spiritualized....He also says that the green baton held by the Cavalier represents a new action on the material plane, a new beginning...as this Cavalier walks slowly but precisely into the future. So the Camoin Cavalier de Deniers has only the one denier while the Valet and Roy already have one that "materialized." He indicates that the denier held by Le Roy is indicative of material possessions which hold their proper place, while his head and eyes turn toward the "spiritualization" of the material indicated by the floating orange deniers.
Certainly, this is just the description of one deck and one author's view on these cards...since Hadar has chosen to keep the color the same throughout. Interestingly, Hadar's Roy has only one denier, the one in his right hand.
The head is turned to space, where the other denier is in this space in the Camoin.
Anyhow, these variations in the court cards of deniers were interesting...so back to our Cavalier/Chevalier. In both decks (Hadar and Camoin) we have a figure that looks to me
as if s(he) could be male or female...
indicative of beginnings....
I kind of like the idea of the different colors in the Camoin with the offering to the reader to reflect on these differences, perhaps to bring in the spiritual element through use of color.
Thank you for the links and definitions everyone...
Are we any closer though to Cavalier vs. Chevalier?
My old Cassell's French dictionary gives
I feel that the figure appears to be more of a horseman than a knight.
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