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Can I just say, before anyone starts scrying, I feel they should say a protecting prayer or even cast a protection circle - and make sure you close down afterwards. I would hate to think of anyone seeing something a little scary!

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Sue - for me it wasnt seeing that was scary, it was hearing noises around me. My hearing has heightened recently due to working with certain energies, so maybe I just freaked myself out lol. Hopefully I'll try scrying tonight, it depends how tired I get from full moon stuff.

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Question We're talking REALLY newbie, here.


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Can I just say, before anyone starts scrying, I feel they should say a protecting prayer or even cast a protection circle - and make sure you close down afterwards. I would hate to think of anyone seeing something a little scary!

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Wow! Is that really necessary? I suppose I can work up a prayer, but I know nothing about protection circles. And by closing down do you mean grounding again?



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A protective circle can be as simple as forming an imaginary blue bubble around yourself, or as complicated as laying a flower and gunpowder mandala around the floor space you are using and pouring rum and lighting cigars while asking Papa Legba to open the gates and chanting requests for protection from your Loa...

I use the blue bubble...

Either way, it is to help you establish a border where evil and tricksters may not pass. The most important thing is being confident that your bounderies won't be broken. If you are confident then you will be more able to relax, and outside spirits will be less interested because you are less suseptable.

Many people will talk with their spirit guides first, some people pray to their prefered deity, some just wish at the universal unknown. It's really very personal and the important aspect is preparing yourself to enter the unknown, and possibly to see things you don't expect.

I recomend insence or heavy aroma candles, music which helps you to delve into your thoughts, and taking the time to set your space and prepare for your study and vision.

If you see something which frightens you simply acknowledge your unnerved. You can stop, or you can take a deep breath and ask the cosmos "what should I be seeing in this", perhaps the images will move on and tell you what they meant.

I have to run out for a minute, but I did try scrying for the first time last night and want to share what I saw, so I'll be right back.

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Sorry, didn't mean to freak everyone out. An Ankou says a bubble or blanket or white light is all that's necessary. Any medium or psychic learns how to protect themselves before they do any spiritual work. This is simply because, when we "open up" it's as though we are a bright light shining in the darkness - and anything passing will notice that light. There is absolutely no need to be scared, just ask your Guides for protection, and as Ankou says, we all of free will - if you don't like what you see then stop.

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Hey Sue, Thanks for reminding me to explain that though, We're a bunch of newbie scrying folks trying to wing it, and I keep forgetting important stuff that is sure to come up So I much appreciate the nudges :kisses:

OK so I'm back and want to share my first try. This might be a little long, I apologise in advance... hee hee....

09-17-05 Full moon is out.

I had a very manic evening, trying to get the Eclectic World deck going in the creation forum, and aurguing with a friend about politics. My husband came home late as he had stopped by a party with some friends and overdone it a bit, so I was grouchy about that too.

I tried to calm down, by choosing a cobalt blue bowl filling it with filtered water and setting the table. I lit three candles but knocked it down to one because it was just too much, lit some insence and some sweetgrass, and asked for calm. I took off all my jewelry and untied my hair. I had to do this twice because the first time I was interupted.

As I looked into the bowl for sometime finnally my face began to change into a skull. I realised that it was because my eyes were drooping, but that must mean I was coming into a relaxed state. So I continued to look at the skull waiting for my mind to catch up. So for all you who have mentioned the skull, I think it's the door to knowing your nearly ready to see, not actually a vision in itself. Don't be afraid, just say "Ah, I'm getting there now".

I start to think of a male friend far away (who I've shared dreams with in the past) and I see a vauge face talking to me in the lower left quadrent. Then in the middle a doorway with siloettes talking to each other. My reflection starts to change again and it's a female friend of mine nearby. Then mechanical gears, then stars ambling across the pool then a blue gem in the middle of the pool.

I realised I hadn't cast any sheild while watching the images. So I tried to build my blue bubble midreading. My dome turned into a channel or tube of mesh made of light, reaching like a tunnel from earth to sky with me in the middle. I could feel a vibration moving through my body, but it was too strong for me because I was tired by now so it came and then went out.

I was ready to stop but my face began to change back and forthwith my friend's again, and I saw her bending over a table writting something then tearing it up and starting writting again.

Then something scarry happened, where the right eye of the reflection should have been was a lifelike naked eye. It had a personality which didn't come from me and it was challenging me. I was tired and a little scarred but in my head I felt that something else wanted to be shown. My reflection started shuffling with my friends face again, but then I had to stop.

So that was my first experience. Most of the images were indistinct. They created themselves from the light and shadow in the bowl. I don't think they are invallid but I have a long way to go before I can see true clear images. The eye was very real, like looking at someones eyeball in real waking life, with color and everything. I'll be trying again soon, maybe a little earlier and in a different space.

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OK so I've been PMing with Zorya and I think this thread should run through Thurs. Sept 22, 05 then Thurs night or Fri morn we'll start a new thread for that week. I like starting just before the weekend because more people post then. I'll post the same thing in the other thread, just so everyone gets the post-it.

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Can I just say, before anyone starts scrying, I feel they should say a protecting prayer or even cast a protection circle - and make sure you close down afterwards. I would hate to think of anyone seeing something a little scary!
MM ~ A circle is a good idea if you are feeling a bit insecure but not entirely necessary. In my own case the property is well-warded and has several Diety shrines and I see no reason to use my own circle casting technique, which would involve calling various Dieties and Beings.
Simply putting up a bubble (and this is all very subjective, we have different names for things) is more what I would call "shielding", like when we find ourselves in close proximity with people who strike us as creepy or at least untrustworthy. I have always scryed sans circle and nothing has jumped out and bitten me. I think of the crystal primarily as a kind of telescope which can be pointed to various locations on the astral for viewing purposes, moreso than a portal. In the Dalai Lama's autobiography, he refers to scrying as "ancient television".
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As I looked into the bowl for sometime finnally my face began to change into a skull. I realised that it was because my eyes were drooping, but that must mean I was coming into a relaxed state. So I continued to look at the skull waiting for my mind to catch up. So for all you who have mentioned the skull, I think it's the door to knowing your nearly ready to see, not actually a vision in itself. Don't be afraid, just say "Ah, I'm getting there now".
MM ~ Excellent point! The meaning of a skull is not simply "death" a la "Tales From The Crypt". Skulls are what remain after we "die". They could be ancestral knowledge, wisdom, atavistic resurgence. The skull could also be a kind of threshold guardian set to scare off those who are not ready. Or maybe you are being called to work with skulls in some way, to scry in a crystal skull, or work in forensics...
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I start to think of a male friend far away (who I've shared dreams with in the past) and I see a vauge face talking to me in the lower left quadrent. Then in the middle a doorway with siloettes talking to each other.
Shared dreams? Doorway with silhouettes? Sounds like astral visits to me, you're probably A.P.ing. If you can find it, (and it's probably out of print, but these things are easily had on Amazon) you'd probably enjoy Astral Projection A Record of Out of Body Experiences by Oliver Fox. You might even recognise some things...
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I was ready to stop but my face began to change back and forthwith my friend's again, and I saw her bending over a table writting something then tearing it up and starting writting again.
There are two possibilities here, that it is a literal vision and you have some ability at remote viewing (cool!) or that it is symbolic of her wanting to say something and not having the right words, or being inhibited somehow. Why don't you ask her?
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Then something scarry happened, where the right eye of the reflection should have been was a lifelike naked eye. It had a personality which didn't come from me and it was challenging me. I was tired and a little scarred but in my head I felt that something else wanted to be shown. My reflection started shuffling with my friends face again, but then I had to stop.
Always best to stop when you tire. There's always next time.
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So that was my first experience. Most of the images were indistinct. They created themselves from the light and shadow in the bowl. I don't think they are invallid but I have a long way to go before I can see true clear images. The eye was very real, like looking at someones eyeball in real waking life, with color and everything. I'll be trying again soon, maybe a little earlier and in a different space.
Sounds like you were quite successful! Images that are dim, fleeting or indistinct are still just as valid as the more dazzling ones. Congratulations! BB, Stella
PS I'll scry for someone here tonight or tomorrow night - any volunteers?
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Rainwolf has kindly agreed that I can post the session here. Hope it makes some sort of sense - I've just put down what I said on the tape and tried not to analyse too much.

First image was a mule - and it didn't look impressed with me! (It does get better, honest....) This was followed by the sensation of the contents of the ball rushing up to meet me, rather like a volcano erupting, but it resolved itself into a beautiful blooming flower - pure white. I couldn't say exactly what it was, but it was like watching one of those speeded-up films of a lotus opening.

Then a lion's face emerged, complete with magnificent whiskers. It receded and came back with a small boy's head cradled between its chin and its paws.

A swathed figure took form and I thought it was going to be madonna-like at first but it turned out to be a monk, who turned and led me into a small walled garden. Then came a procession of monks, the leader carrying either a crucifix or a large candle held with the elbows at waist-height and hands dipping down - it was heavy, whatever it was. The scene changed to a monk with an elbow on a desk and I thought of scriptorium.

A shadowy fighting figure emerged - I was expecting something like a Templar's cross but instead it was a huge heart emblazoned across his chest.

Just a head and shoulders this time - a lot of flowing dark hair and long moustaches. And a very ornate collar - sort of stand-up with gold braiding: could have been a military jacket or a cloak.

A fair-haired little girl - hair in a bob, looking down at something in her hands. Dress quite plain - probably grey "worstead" (sp?) comes to mind. She looked more modern than I'd seen so far.

Quick flash of a figure seated in what I'd call an astronaut's position - sort of tipped up.

Father Time's standing there - but no scythe: instead he's got an open book in his hands.

Homely woman - her hair would be up in a bun: probably grey. She was wearing an overall type dress - very plain: got the impression of brown, maybe. She only presented as very, very small - but she was active. She would be the homemaker, but the animated way she carried on I thought she might be behind a shop counter. She was talking to someone, but I couldn't see them. She had a very "quick" way about her - not agitated, just brisk (but kindly). Then it came to me that she could possibly even be a seamstress (I'd usually say dressmaker) - it was her arms that seemed to do most of the moving: could have been smoothing something out.

A large image of a perfectly cut, flawless diamond. It was round-cut from the top. A lot of love came with it. Behind it appeared a feather. The diamond was possibly attached to a ring although the band wasn't very clear. This seemed most likely as it receded back into the ball as if it'd been held out to me for inspection and withdrawn.

The final image was a marvellous elderly gentleman with twinkling eyes - they showed a lot of character. He had lots of dark hair and a dark beard streaked with grey. He put me in mind of an orthodox rabbi (although I'm not sure if he was) and a black hat appeared to make the picture complete. Whoever he was, he exuded a love of life and charisma. He couldn't have gone unnoticed in a crowd! I thought he was a rather nice image to end on.

OK Rainwolf: can you make sense of that?!



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