fools-fool,
thanks a lot for this link.
Very interesting (though the site looks strange to me)
I would first say that it really look like my deck 01.
Same pictures with the frame narrowing the pictures.
Same background color.
It is for me also nice to finally see how could a box for this deck look like.
BTW this box with this symbol remind me of the "green box" Rusty Neon mentioned.
But one would have to know if it is maybe a 1930 edition of this deck.
Unfortunately there are not much informations on the site.
The pictures are listed under:
Section Tarots Grimaud (période entre deux guerres)
Tarot de Marseille
It means: Department Tarots Grimaud (Time between the two worldwars)
So it would point to the years between 1918 and 1939
I already have send an e-mail to the site to ask further informations.
(Tulip or Lys on the 4 Deniers, coins or dice on the table of LE BATELEUR, LWB ... and also where do this dating comes from)
I am really intrigued to get an answer.
On all TdM from Marteau I have, the 2 of cups have this quite large red space in the bottom with no writing.
As you probably know, the Marteau deck is a re-drawing of the Conver.
I have attached a scan of the 2 of cups from the 1968 edition of the Conver by Camoin (this edition has been printed from original woodblocks).
On the bottom is a kind of blazon and as you can see it does not really match with the style of the drawings.
It could be the reason why Marteau let this place empty but ... he describes this red place in his book two times as "une base rouge" (a red base)
I am not sure about his text, though I am french, I must confess I have some difficulties to clearly understand Marteaus text.
It seems to me as if he takes this "base rouge" as a symbol for "les désirs matériels" (material desires)
and further also as "base rouge, représentation du monde matériel des instincts et des désirs inférieur dont l'inconsistance se révèle par une teinte plate ..."
(red base, representation of the material world of instincts and lower(inferior) desires whose inconsistency is revealed through a flat color ...)
Sorry for my bad english , Marteaus text is quite heavy in french.
Well, I am interested in Marteau more from the collection point of view and as I said before this red and empty place is to me a graphic solution but this is my very humble and personal point of view
Best regards