Gypsy! Vandenborre! Mystery!

[Fulgour]

I thought we might open a "side-discussion" here
in the History Forum on a very unusual edition...

See:

Mysterious Vandenborre Tarot Kaarten c.1850
Aeclectic "Tarot Decks" Forum

http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?t=68120

[Gayla]

I thought about that deck more today as well. I wondered is it actually a deck from 1850...and what are the origins of it?

[Gayla]

nevermind...I see it was a copy.

[Rainbow Aurora]

I'm glad I found this thread. (It must be my Gypsy
blood )

I feel it is a mystery in that I haven't been able to
find one d--n thing about this deck. It isn't auctioned
or sold anywhere that I can tell so... perhaps I'm just
too nosy in hoping to find a little more about it.

I appreciate having it here in my hands even though
I do find some of the images a little disconcerting.

Rainbow

[WolfSpirit]

Originally Posted by Rainbow Aurora

I feel it is a mystery in that I haven't been able to
find one d--n thing about this deck. It isn't auctioned
or sold anywhere that I can tell so... perhaps I'm just
too nosy in hoping to find a little more about it.

Is your deck this one ? http://i-p-c-s.org/pattern/ps-9.html
They also have an Austrian and Bavarian animal deck that are similar.
But I haven't seen it for sale either - I wish they would reprint one of these decks, I'd love one. I think you are lucky Rainbow Aurora

[Fulgour]

Originally Posted by Gayla

nevermind...I see it was a copy.

Thank You Gayla! It's a fair enough question to ask,
and we are rather "informal" here on the History Forum.

[Rainbow Aurora]

Originally Posted by WolfSpirit

Is your deck this one ? http://i-p-c-s.org/pattern/ps-9.html
They also have an Austrian and Bavarian animal deck that are similar.
But I haven't seen it for sale either - I wish they would reprint one of these decks, I'd love one. I think you are lucky Rainbow Aurora

THANK YOU WolfSpirit!!!

The link is great and yes, these are my cards.
They are a re-print of course and I don’t know
where on earth anyone can get them today, but
yes, I am a lucky girl

Rainbow

[Rosanne]

Just curious- I believe the name 'Gypsy' is a corruption of the word 'Egyptian'- also 'Bohemian' refers to Gypsy. If this is so- then Court de Geblin, Alliette(Etteilla), Encauss (Papus) and even somewhat, Levi, sought to prove their ideas that Tarot origin was Egypt; even those that thought that Tarot came from India, got it right by default as that is where the Gypsies actually came from. The romance of Tarot and its imputed history is a strange field of speculation and dreams, and I think we all wonder at its origins- and why not?~Rosanne

[baba-prague]

Originally Posted by Rosanne

also 'Bohemian' refers to Gypsy.

Well, it can do - based on the mistaken belief that the Roma came from Bohemia. However, Bohemian more usually and more broadly means an inhabitant (Roma or not) of Bohemia. Apart of course from the more metaphorical meaning :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian

[le pendu]

Moderator Note:
I have removed off topic posts. Please keep the discussion of this deck on the subject of this deck.

thanks,
robert