knights in RWS and THoth - Page 3

Babylon_Jasmine · 21-12-2006

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Originally Posted by Lillie

And also in the Thoth, the Prince becomes the knight, and the knight becomes the prince...
So it's all one and the same.

However, if I am reading a RWS deck but using the Thoth meanings, a knight is a knight. Because of the horses.
And the prince, therefore, becomes the king. cos they are sitting down.

The obvious thing to say after that, is that why would I want to do it, and if I only use the Thoth meanings, why not use the Thoth deck?

Well, usually I do.
But I like to try new things occassionally.
But it never works out.
As you can probably tell.
So I go back to the Thoth.

Oh yeah.

The other obvious thing.
Waite was totally conversant with the yod-he-vau-he, and it's workings and ramifications.
It is the system he would have used.
So, why is this system not given to those that use his deck?
Either he was disguising/concealing it, for reasons of his own.
Or he did not have as much to do with the deck as some people think.
Or there is a third possibility I havn't thought of yet.

Probably disguising/concealing. Have you read "an illustrated guide to the tarot"? Waite was all about making the truth difficult to find.

**Lillie** · 21-12-2006

The only thing I have read by Waite is the Key to the tarot.

It really bugged me.
I felt so wound up by the things he wrote.

He kept saying that there were 'deepe meanings' to the symbolism, but that the reader didn't need to know them, so he was not going to say.

And the thing that bugs me most is that he mentions it at all.

If he feels like that, why mention it? Why not just not say nothing about it?

It's like he is enjoying rubbing the readers nose in the fact that he knows stuff that they don't, and that he could tell but won't.

And that just really annoyed me.
I took against Waite right there and then.

sweet_intuition · 21-12-2006

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Originally Posted by Lillie

He kept saying that there were 'deepe meanings' to the symbolism, but that the reader didn't need to know them, so he was not going to say.

And the thing that bugs me most is that he mentions it at all.

If he feels like that, why mention it? Why not just not say nothing about it?

It's like he is enjoying rubbing the readers nose in the fact that he knows stuff that they don't, and that he could tell but won't.

And that just really annoyed me.

Well honey what do you expect... Waite was a leo... DramaQueen ... Crowley was a Libra... 'nuff said

**Lillie** · 25-12-2006

I have a Libra with Leo rising...

I expect he has the worst bits of both.

Can't make up his mind, then has a drama queen type crisis over it all.

Fulgour · 25-12-2006

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Originally Posted by sweet_intuition

Waite was a leo...
Crowley was a Libra...

LIBRA
Arthur Edward Waite
Friday, October 2, 1857
Waxing Gibbous Moon in PISCES
Full Moon in ARIES on October 3rd

LIBRA
Edward Alexander (Aleister) Crowley
Tuesday, October 12, 1875
Waxing Gibbous Moon in PISCES
Full Moon in ARIES on October 14th

Parzival · 25-12-2006

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Originally Posted by Fulgour

LIBRA
Arthur Edward Waite
Friday, October 2, 1857
Waxing Gibbous Moon in PISCES
Full Moon in ARIES on October 3rd

LIBRA
Edward Alexander (Aleister) Crowley
Tuesday, October 12, 1875
Waxing Gibbous Moon in PISCES
Full Moon in ARIES on October 14th

Interesting astrological information. Both have "waxing gibbous moon in pisces" at birth. Poetic and intuitve, both of them. And both can be expansive with their insights and visions. But house positions of the moon and the whole horoscope patterns could/would modify this.

sweet_intuition · 25-12-2006

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Originally Posted by Fulgour

LIBRA
Arthur Edward Waite
Friday, October 2, 1857
Waxing Gibbous Moon in PISCES
Full Moon in ARIES on October 3rd

Damn... I did read somewhere he was a leo... probably his rising or something.

Fulgour · 25-12-2006

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Originally Posted by sweet_intuition

I did read somewhere he [A.E.Waite] was a leo...
probably his rising or something.

There was a Lunar Eclipse at 10:30 a.m. GMT on 17 February 1878
at 28Ò Leo, on the very day after Pamela Colman Smith was born.

Voron · 27-12-2006

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Originally Posted by sweet_intuition

Damn... I did read somewhere he was a leo... probably his rising or something.

I don't know about Waite, but Crowley was a Leo Rising.

Lillie Frog Join Date: 12 Dec 2004 Location: Nowhere Posts: 11,911	The only thing I have read by Waite is the Key to the tarot. It really bugged me. I felt so wound up by the things he wrote. He kept saying that there were 'deepe meanings' to the symbolism, but that the reader didn't need to know them, so he was not going to say. And the thing that bugs me most is that he mentions it at all. If he feels like that, why mention it? Why not just not say nothing about it? It's like he is enjoying rubbing the readers nose in the fact that he knows stuff that they don't, and that he could tell but won't. And that just really annoyed me. I took against Waite right there and then. __________________ All things move toward their end Of that you can be sure

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Lillie Frog Join Date: 12 Dec 2004 Location: Nowhere Posts: 11,911	I have a Libra with Leo rising... I expect he has the worst bits of both. Can't make up his mind, then has a drama queen type crisis over it all. __________________ All things move toward their end Of that you can be sure

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