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SunChariot 
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The Pips are the Minor Arcana cards (not sure it that includes the Court cards or not). And the Trumps are the Major Arcana cards. Bar
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Thirteen
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The minor arcana (pips) are the ones with wands, swords, cups and pentacles. The majors (Trumps) are those first 22 cards from the Fool at 0 to the World at 21. And often the Courts are also separated out--and called the "courts" and these are the cards with pages, knights, queens and kings. |
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jmd
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This is actually linguistically highly interesting, as I was only recently responding to a similar but reversed question to this one, explaining that the 'Major Arcana' are the Trumps or Atouts from I through to XXI and the Fool, and the 'Minor Arcana' are the pips and courts of the other four suits. |
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Fulgour
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"Pips" are numbered cards, and so therefore, it stated, in a deck of cards, cards 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 (not "Ace"). Aces and Courts (Face Cards) are not "Pips" but rather, they are called the Aces and Courts. Ace being highest. When the "Tarot" was introduced to Europe, long before playing cards were copied from it and made fashionable, the Ace was clearly so named to show that it is special. It's best to disregard "playing cards" as a later deviation. |
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Fulgour
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It should be noted, that in the Tarot there are four Court Cards, which has always been thus, but in "playing cards" the Knight lost his horse, and the Pages (or Valets) were sadly removed. Some misguided accounts specify wrongly that Knights were added to the Tarot, with horses, which is backwards and yet proves Tarot older. |
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Pips and Trumps
Thank you
