Pips and Trumps

**tmle39** · 15-01-2007

Hi everyone! I'm new and I have a question(even though some of you may think this is a really dumb question). What are Pips and Trumps in a Tarot Deck???
Thank you, tmle39

**SunChariot** · 15-01-2007

The Pips are the Minor Arcana cards (not sure it that includes the Court cards or not). And the Trumps are the Major Arcana cards.

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***Thirteen*** · 15-01-2007

The minor arcana (pips) are the ones with wands, swords, cups and pentacles.

The majors (Trumps) are those first 22 cards from the Fool at 0 to the World at 21.

And often the Courts are also separated out--and called the "courts" and these are the cards with pages, knights, queens and kings.

**jmd** · 15-01-2007

This is actually linguistically highly interesting, as I was only recently responding to a similar but reversed question to this one, explaining that the 'Major Arcana' are the Trumps or Atouts from I through to XXI and the Fool, and the 'Minor Arcana' are the pips and courts of the other four suits.

Fulgour · 15-01-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmd

...the 'Minor Arcana' are the pips and courts of the other four suits.

My research was simple: I looked it up in the dictionary.
"Pips" are numbered cards, and so therefore, it stated,
in a deck of cards, cards 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 (not "Ace").

Aces and Courts (Face Cards) are not "Pips" but rather,
they are called the Aces and Courts. Ace being highest.

When the "Tarot" was introduced to Europe, long before
playing cards were copied from it and made fashionable,
the Ace was clearly so named to show that it is special.

It's best to disregard "playing cards" as a later deviation.

Fulgour · 16-01-2007

It should be noted, that in the Tarot there are
four Court Cards, which has always been thus,
but in "playing cards" the Knight lost his horse,
and the Pages (or Valets) were sadly removed.

Some misguided accounts specify wrongly that
Knights were added to the Tarot, with horses,
which is backwards and yet proves Tarot older.

**tmle39** · 16-01-2007

Thank you to all that responded. It is nice to know any question will be answered. i am now clear on the pips and trumps issue. tmle39

tmle39 Resident Join Date: 28 Dec 2006 Location: PA;USA Posts: 8	Pips and Trumps Hi everyone! I'm new and I have a question(even though some of you may think this is a really dumb question). What are Pips and Trumps in a Tarot Deck??? Thank you, tmle39

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SunChariot Citizen Join Date: 29 Oct 2004 Location: Quebec, Canada Posts: 8,952	The Pips are the Minor Arcana cards (not sure it that includes the Court cards or not). And the Trumps are the Major Arcana cards. Bar __________________ "Although science stops at the borders of logic, nature does not. It blossoms even where no theories have as yet penetrated." C.G. Jung "Love this world with the joy of a child, because anything else is only make believe" (told to me in a meditation)

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tmle39 Resident Join Date: 28 Dec 2006 Location: PA;USA Posts: 8	Thank you Thank you to all that responded. It is nice to know any question will be answered. i am now clear on the pips and trumps issue. tmle39

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*Thirteen* The Thirteenth Moon Moderator Join Date: 17 Sep 2001 Location: Pluto Posts: 6,791	The minor arcana (pips) are the ones with wands, swords, cups and pentacles. The majors (Trumps) are those first 22 cards from the Fool at 0 to the World at 21. And often the Courts are also separated out--and called the "courts" and these are the cards with pages, knights, queens and kings.

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jmd fourhares Join Date: 05 Aug 2001 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 8,502	This is actually linguistically highly interesting, as I was only recently responding to a similar but reversed question to this one, explaining that the 'Major Arcana' are the Trumps or Atouts from I through to XXI and the Fool, and the 'Minor Arcana' are the pips and courts of the other four suits.

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Fulgour Citizen Join Date: 10 Jun 2004 Location: slumbrin in the windrows of the hours... Posts: 7,828	It should be noted, that in the Tarot there are four Court Cards, which has always been thus, but in "playing cards" the Knight lost his horse, and the Pages (or Valets) were sadly removed. Some misguided accounts specify wrongly that Knights were added to the Tarot, with horses, which is backwards and yet proves Tarot older.

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