Sibilla Oracle Cards

finn · 24-09-2002

I just purchased one of these a few days ago. Does anyone have one of these? Do share your experiences with me, since I still haven't learnt to grasp the fortune-teling too well, especially when the "judgements" are one-worded and therefore too vague.

SherryZoned · 24-09-2002

I dont have them...Could you post a link so I can see them please?

finn · 24-09-2002

http://www.mystery-games.com/siborcar.html

SherryZoned · 24-09-2002

Not a bad price...Looks interesting..

Pollux · 24-09-2002

Hey, I am sorrounded by Sibilla Oracles.
There is not just one, you know, here I have seen at least 6 different ones. Also, they are often used on the telly by would-be psychics and cartomants. Some decks are really cute, while others look so bad...

They are generally 40 or 52 cards based decks, they lack Majors, and often are question-focused (for example there is a Love-aimed Sibilla Oracle, I have seen it, I swear! *LOL*).

Redwood, you know, the 40-card ones are associated with Neapolitan Playing Cards. Most of them are structured with a big picture for the meaning, and a small tiny picture of the corresponding Neapolitan ùplaying Card.

You can see many of the Oracles on Alida. And of course I am sure you will find most of them somewhere else too.

I think that, since I cannot get by decks BUT Sibilla Oracles, I should become a sort of Sibilla-Oracle Official Dealer on here. It might be useful for trades...

(I am serious, let me know guys and gals)

**felicityk** · 15-07-2003

I am resurrecting this thread since I have recently become interested in collecting oracle decks other than Tarot, and I would like to learn more about the sibyl/sibilla decks.

Do all sibilla decks follow the same pattern, or is each one different? Or are there a few historical patterns that these decks fall under? For example, I have seen a lot of Italian decks; do they follow a different tradition than French decks?

Felicity

Rusty Neon · 15-07-2003

The Sibilla Oracle deck published by Lo Scarabeo
http://www.learntarot.com/sidesc.htm
has the same images and the same or substantially the same keywords as the 19th century French cartomancy deck _La Sibylle des Salons_ (photoreproduction deck available from Grimaud publishers).

The LS deck differs from the Grimaud in that the LS's cards are smaller and the French keywords have been replaced by the less authentic quadrilingual LS keywords.

**felicityk** · 16-07-2003

In my search I have found many 52-card Sibilla decks and thought I'd list them here in case anyone else is interested.

Sibilla Indovina - Lo Scarabeo
http://www.trigono.com/tarots/TDI037...a-indovina.htm

Sibilla della Zingara - Lo Scarabeo
http://www.trigono.com/tarots/TDI035...la-zingara.htm

Sibilla delle Fortuna - Lo Scarabeo
http://www.trigono.com/tarots/TDI036...la-fortuna.htm

Sibilla Originale 1890 - Il Meneghello
http://www.trigono.com/tarots/sibill...inale-1890.htm

Mysteri della Sibilla - Dal Negro
http://www.trigono.com/tarots/TA02TMDS.htm

Oracolo della Sibilla - Dal Negro
http://www.trigono.com/tarots/TA02TAOS.htm

Il Vostro Destino - Masenghini
http://www.trigono.com/tarots/TA04VDMA.htm

La Vera Sibilla - Masenghini
http://www.trigono.com/tarots/TA04VSMA.htm

Sybille des Salons - Grimaud
http://www.trigono.com/tarots/TA03TASS.htm

If anyone has any of these, I'd be interested in knowing how they compare, i.e. if the meanings are the same across the board. RustyNeon has already pointed out the correspondence between the Sybille des Salons and the Lo Scarabeo Sibilla Indovina. The decks that appeal to me most artistically are the two Dal Negro decks and the Masenghini Il Vostro Destino (which I'm not entirely certain is a sibilla deck).

Felicity

Edited to add: Here are a few more that aren't at Trigono. Alida doesn't allow direct links; start from http://www.alidastore.com/indexen.html.

La Magica Sibilla - Dal Negro
Sibilla '800 - Dal Negro
(on page "Tarocchi e Cartomanzie 1")

BoomVoom · 17-07-2003

hi!
i've been trying to finde out more about the sibyl for some time but nobody ever replyes to my thread.

i have:
la magica sibilla (dal negro)
l'oracolo della sibilla (us games)
sibylle des salons (grimaud)

i have found both from my decks and what i finde on the internet that the italian sibyls have diferent designations of the cards to the french sibyls.

EG: in the sibylle des salons amour is the 6 of hearts.
in the italian decks (la magica sibilla) it is the 4 of hearts.

the sibylle des salons designate the 3 of hearts and dimonds as the male and female consultant. in the italian sibilla, they have added 2 extra cards for a male or female consultant which are seperate from the 52 cards assoceated with the original playing cards.

why this is, i do not know. but i'll tell you one thing, it drives me nuts!

i'm beguinning to realise that the sibyls are not suposed to be too dificult to read. i think you're suposed to read them much like a lenormand deck...

dus any body want to make a study group for the sibyl? i would definitly be interested in finding out what other people know and perhaps looking into posible interpretations of cards, maby even from both french and italian decks.

another thing that is realy strainge and i fogot to mention is, the "oralolo della sibilla" seams to have mixed the designations of the cards of the french and italian sibyls! that drives me even mor nuts!

i'll be watching this thread. and i hope to finde out the opinions and vews of you guys. especialy Pollux who apears to have alot of experience with these decks.

BoomVoom

Myrrha · 20-07-2003

Oh, these are intriguing. Here is one more that I don't think was mentioned yet:
http://www.mondoalternativo.com/cgi-...&itemcode=TALD
it is called "Le Livre de Destin" published by Grimaud. I like the one card shown but would love to see more pictures!

Myrrha

finn Citizen Join Date: 23 Sep 2002 Location: shanghai Posts: 105	Sibilla Oracle Cards I just purchased one of these a few days ago. Does anyone have one of these? Do share your experiences with me, since I still haven't learnt to grasp the fortune-teling too well, especially when the "judgements" are one-worded and therefore too vague. __________________ finn `It's a pun!' the King added in an offended tone, and everybody laughed, `Let the jury consider their verdict,' the King said, for about the twentieth time that day. `No, no!' said the Queen. `Sentence first--verdict afterwards.' `Stuff and nonsense!' said Alice loudly. `The idea of having the sentence first!'

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finn Citizen Join Date: 23 Sep 2002 Location: shanghai Posts: 105	http://www.mystery-games.com/siborcar.html __________________ finn `It's a pun!' the King added in an offended tone, and everybody laughed, `Let the jury consider their verdict,' the King said, for about the twentieth time that day. `No, no!' said the Queen. `Sentence first--verdict afterwards.' `Stuff and nonsense!' said Alice loudly. `The idea of having the sentence first!'

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Pollux Citizen Join Date: 23 Aug 2001 Location: Brescia (Northern Italy), sometimes Pisa or Naples Posts: 2,990	Hey, I am sorrounded by Sibilla Oracles. There is not just one, you know, here I have seen at least 6 different ones. Also, they are often used on the telly by would-be psychics and cartomants. Some decks are really cute, while others look so bad... They are generally 40 or 52 cards based decks, they lack Majors, and often are question-focused (for example there is a Love-aimed Sibilla Oracle, I have seen it, I swear! LOL). Redwood, you know, the 40-card ones are associated with Neapolitan Playing Cards. Most of them are structured with a big picture for the meaning, and a small tiny picture of the corresponding Neapolitan ùplaying Card. You can see many of the Oracles on Alida. And of course I am sure you will find most of them somewhere else too. I think that, since I cannot get by decks BUT Sibilla Oracles, I should become a sort of Sibilla-Oracle Official Dealer on here. It might be useful for trades... (I am serious, let me know guys and gals) __________________ ∞ ∆ ~ There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy ~ Ω ∞ The Wheel and the Moon - a project by Chris Paradis (creator of the Rock And Roll Tarot) http://www.indiegogo.com/awheelandthemoon

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felicityk Citizen Join Date: 25 Jan 2003 Location: MA, USA Posts: 401	I am resurrecting this thread since I have recently become interested in collecting oracle decks other than Tarot, and I would like to learn more about the sibyl/sibilla decks. Do all sibilla decks follow the same pattern, or is each one different? Or are there a few historical patterns that these decks fall under? For example, I have seen a lot of Italian decks; do they follow a different tradition than French decks? Felicity Last edited by felicityk; 16-07-2003 at 02:11.

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felicityk Citizen Join Date: 25 Jan 2003 Location: MA, USA Posts: 401	In my search I have found many 52-card Sibilla decks and thought I'd list them here in case anyone else is interested. Sibilla Indovina - Lo Scarabeo http://www.trigono.com/tarots/TDI037...a-indovina.htm Sibilla della Zingara - Lo Scarabeo http://www.trigono.com/tarots/TDI035...la-zingara.htm Sibilla delle Fortuna - Lo Scarabeo http://www.trigono.com/tarots/TDI036...la-fortuna.htm Sibilla Originale 1890 - Il Meneghello http://www.trigono.com/tarots/sibill...inale-1890.htm Mysteri della Sibilla - Dal Negro http://www.trigono.com/tarots/TA02TMDS.htm Oracolo della Sibilla - Dal Negro http://www.trigono.com/tarots/TA02TAOS.htm Il Vostro Destino - Masenghini http://www.trigono.com/tarots/TA04VDMA.htm La Vera Sibilla - Masenghini http://www.trigono.com/tarots/TA04VSMA.htm Sybille des Salons - Grimaud http://www.trigono.com/tarots/TA03TASS.htm If anyone has any of these, I'd be interested in knowing how they compare, i.e. if the meanings are the same across the board. RustyNeon has already pointed out the correspondence between the Sybille des Salons and the Lo Scarabeo Sibilla Indovina. The decks that appeal to me most artistically are the two Dal Negro decks and the Masenghini Il Vostro Destino (which I'm not entirely certain is a sibilla deck). Felicity Edited to add: Here are a few more that aren't at Trigono. Alida doesn't allow direct links; start from http://www.alidastore.com/indexen.html. La Magica Sibilla - Dal Negro Sibilla '800 - Dal Negro (on page "Tarocchi e Cartomanzie 1") Last edited by felicityk; 16-07-2003 at 02:28.

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SherryZoned Citizen Join Date: 03 Apr 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 3,636	I dont have them...Could you post a link so I can see them please?

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Rusty Neon Citizen Join Date: 12 Mar 2003 Location: Land of Snow and Ice (O Canada) Posts: 4,843	The Sibilla Oracle deck published by Lo Scarabeo http://www.learntarot.com/sidesc.htm has the same images and the same or substantially the same keywords as the 19th century French cartomancy deck _La Sibylle des Salons_ (photoreproduction deck available from Grimaud publishers). The LS deck differs from the Grimaud in that the LS's cards are smaller and the French keywords have been replaced by the less authentic quadrilingual LS keywords.

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BoomVoom Citizen Join Date: 03 Aug 2002 Location: New York City, USA Posts: 245	hi! i've been trying to finde out more about the sibyl for some time but nobody ever replyes to my thread. i have: la magica sibilla (dal negro) l'oracolo della sibilla (us games) sibylle des salons (grimaud) i have found both from my decks and what i finde on the internet that the italian sibyls have diferent designations of the cards to the french sibyls. EG: in the sibylle des salons amour is the 6 of hearts. in the italian decks (la magica sibilla) it is the 4 of hearts. the sibylle des salons designate the 3 of hearts and dimonds as the male and female consultant. in the italian sibilla, they have added 2 extra cards for a male or female consultant which are seperate from the 52 cards assoceated with the original playing cards. why this is, i do not know. but i'll tell you one thing, it drives me nuts! i'm beguinning to realise that the sibyls are not suposed to be too dificult to read. i think you're suposed to read them much like a lenormand deck... dus any body want to make a study group for the sibyl? i would definitly be interested in finding out what other people know and perhaps looking into posible interpretations of cards, maby even from both french and italian decks. another thing that is realy strainge and i fogot to mention is, the "oralolo della sibilla" seams to have mixed the designations of the cards of the french and italian sibyls! that drives me even mor nuts! i'll be watching this thread. and i hope to finde out the opinions and vews of you guys. especialy Pollux who apears to have alot of experience with these decks. BoomVoom __________________ ~ Fortuna mos adeo qui peto ~

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Myrrha Citizen Join Date: 23 Sep 2002 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,073	Oh, these are intriguing. Here is one more that I don't think was mentioned yet: http://www.mondoalternativo.com/cgi-...&itemcode=TALD it is called "Le Livre de Destin" published by Grimaud. I like the one card shown but would love to see more pictures! Myrrha

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