Vandenborre tarot

catlin · 16-10-2002

Anyone working with this one or having it? I checked it at Frankfurt book fair and wondered why it seems to be rarely mentioned.

I did not get this deck as the edges are not rounded so they will easily wear of after some handling but the cards are made of a nice sturdy cardboard with a smooth coating.

Maan · 17-10-2002

Hi catlin some time ago i was looking for this deck but i was told it was OOP...so maybe i will get it now.
Its a historical deck and made in belgium and well thats practical The netherlands...and i believe in the time of creation it was actually..so it feels like a part of my "personal" history

I must have

catlin · 17-10-2002

No problem, Maan, it is still in print here. Do you have something nice to figure out a trade

Maan · 17-10-2002

catlin you have got pm

Kissa · 22-12-2004

browsing different Marseilles styles, found the belgian Vandenborre.

here is a review from Tarot Passages: http://www.tarotpassages.com/vanden.htm

now the question is: is it me or have all cards been flipped over?? the characters seem to face the "wrong" direction... is it only a "mistake" from the scanner or did is the deck really like this?

?

Kissa

edited to add: allright, scans from the Mystic Eye here: http://www.themysticeye.com/pics/bacchus.htm
and they show the same thing...
very interesting deck, really... anyone has it? for trade?

Dark Inquisitor · 22-12-2004

I have this deck, but not right at hand so I can't check to see which way the cards face in reality for you.

It's a very odd deck . Look carefully at The Spanish Captain for a naughty subliminal.

**HudsonGray** · 22-12-2004

That is a very strange deck. It's not 'flipped' cards because the wording is still readable, so the artist reversed all the directions.

But I don't think the Moon has a seated 'man'--it's a woman, she's spinning with a spindle/distaff (wool on a stick arranged in a bound bundle but the threads pull down from the bottom and are hand spun from there. Boy that moon looks like a cabbage.

And why put Baccus in place of the Hierophant? Some comment on drunken clergy?

Kissa · 22-12-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by HudsonGray

That is a very strange deck. It's not 'flipped' cards because the wording is still readable, so the artist reversed all the directions.

indeed, indeed HudsonGray... you make a point, i would be such a lousy Sherlock Holmes, right?

hum... Bacchus as the Pape... the artist had a bad hangover when he drew the deck? ... on New Year's Day perhaps??

i liked the lines and the colours very much in this deck, but it is definitely too far away from the more traditional TdM designs, flipping directions like this IS a big thing, changing meanings dramatically IMO...

thank you guys for the info!

Kissa

baba-prague · 23-12-2004

I was given the deck some time ago (actually by Carta Mundi, who print it - nice of them). I don't read with it, but do like it.

As far as I know the religious figures were taken out and replaced with the Greek classical figures - such as Bacchus - because at the time the deck was originally produced there was pressure not to show religious references in cards - it was thought improper. You can see the same thing done on other decks.

The figures facing in unconventional directions? Well, to be honest I have no explanation for this - but perhaps someone else here will?

Fulgour · 23-12-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Inquisitor

It's a very odd deck . Look carefully at The Spanish Captain for a naughty subliminal.

That's why I keep this card pasted to the back of a mirror.

catlin Citizen Join Date: 06 Aug 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 4,591	Vandenborre tarot Anyone working with this one or having it? I checked it at Frankfurt book fair and wondered why it seems to be rarely mentioned. I did not get this deck as the edges are not rounded so they will easily wear of after some handling but the cards are made of a nice sturdy cardboard with a smooth coating.

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Kissa Citizen Join Date: 01 Feb 2002 Location: Suomi Posts: 3,515	browsing different Marseilles styles, found the belgian Vandenborre. here is a review from Tarot Passages: http://www.tarotpassages.com/vanden.htm now the question is: is it me or have all cards been flipped over?? the characters seem to face the "wrong" direction... is it only a "mistake" from the scanner or did is the deck really like this? ? Kissa edited to add: allright, scans from the Mystic Eye here: http://www.themysticeye.com/pics/bacchus.htm and they show the same thing... very interesting deck, really... anyone has it? for trade? __________________ "Give up defining yourself - to yourself or to others. You won’t die. You will come to life." E. Tolle Last edited by Kissa; 22-12-2004 at 05:39.

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Dark Inquisitor Citizen Join Date: 30 May 2002 Location: in the darkened parlor.. Posts: 2,149	I have this deck, but not right at hand so I can't check to see which way the cards face in reality for you. It's a very odd deck . Look carefully at The Spanish Captain for a naughty subliminal. __________________ drinking blueberry tea in the crystal room ..

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HudsonGray Citizen Join Date: 26 Apr 2002 Location: I childproofed my house but they still get in. Posts: 4,930	That is a very strange deck. It's not 'flipped' cards because the wording is still readable, so the artist reversed all the directions. But I don't think the Moon has a seated 'man'--it's a woman, she's spinning with a spindle/distaff (wool on a stick arranged in a bound bundle but the threads pull down from the bottom and are hand spun from there. Boy that moon looks like a cabbage. And why put Baccus in place of the Hierophant? Some comment on drunken clergy? __________________ You can give a cat a fish, and he'll eat for a day. Or you can teach a cat to fish, and he'll sit in his boat pouting all day because nobody gave him another fish.

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baba-prague Citizen Join Date: 24 Nov 2002 Location: Prague, wonderful Prague, Czech Republic Posts: 7,559	I was given the deck some time ago (actually by Carta Mundi, who print it - nice of them). I don't read with it, but do like it. As far as I know the religious figures were taken out and replaced with the Greek classical figures - such as Bacchus - because at the time the deck was originally produced there was pressure not to show religious references in cards - it was thought improper. You can see the same thing done on other decks. The figures facing in unconventional directions? Well, to be honest I have no explanation for this - but perhaps someone else here will? __________________ The Magic Realist Press and Baba Studio Tarot of Prague Baroque Bohemian Cats' Tarot Fairytale Tarot Fantastic Menagerie Tarot Victorian Flower Oracle Victorian Romantic Tarot Bohemian Gothic Tarot Alice Tarot - 2013

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Maan Citizen Join Date: 05 Aug 2001 Location: Netherlands Posts: 2,053	Hi catlin some time ago i was looking for this deck but i was told it was OOP...so maybe i will get it now. Its a historical deck and made in belgium and well thats practical The netherlands...and i believe in the time of creation it was actually..so it feels like a part of my "personal" history I must have

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