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The fool, his master, a wheel and a donkey.
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The fool beneath the nave.
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Available online as published in Phantasmagora of Fun here: http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=e...ger+mountebank __________________ "I am a diviner, but a poor one." Last edited by kwaw; 16-12-2007 at 02:47. |
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How about a little visual representation? ![]() I often see the Minchiate Brisocle as an encoded version of Aristotle's virtues, from Nicomachaen Ethics. An important concept of which is the concept of moderation, or the golden mean. The text you share here gives me a little more to work with La ruota della fortuna, which I see as Felicitas. On the Nicomachaen Ethics. __________________ श्री हनुमानजी जय |
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Fortune rule the rim. God the centre.
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The Fool beneath the Knave
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http://www.tarock.info/bertoni.htm Signora Riminaldi, designated the 'Il Matto' card with the legend `worth nought is the beauty without madness' (Nulla val la beltà senza pazzia), is the subject of a verse according to Vitalli where she as Matto is also 'set under or beneath' (supposta) the 'smooth talker' (Barattino): Original text: "Par che l'angel, la stella, il sol, la luna Col mondo, et chi con lui di viver brama, Odiano la beltà, che il cielo aduna Nel viso altier de la signora Mama. Forsi per esser tra le Dee queste una Che lor spogli del ben, che 'l valor ama, O pur, per che ne morte, o ria fortuna Dal fermo suo voler maj la richiama: però dee creder fermamente ognuno Ch'un spirtito malvagio habbia costej Supposta solamente al Barattino* Per poter dire i buoni tarocchi mej Saran, s'avien ch'io giuochi, et questi uno Vo trare il Matto ch'è cervel divino. "It appears that the angel, star, sun, and moon With the world, whom all covet to live with her, Hate the beauty that the firmament assembles In the haughty visage of Lady Mother. Maybe to be one among these Goddesses She is stripped of the good, of things to love, Or because neither death nor guilty fortune From her own firm will can ever recall her: Everybody must firmly believe That a wicked spirit has this woman; Alone set under the smooth talker* So able to say "this tarot most apt shall be for myself, to play as I please, and I draw this the Mad One that is the brain divine." (Published in Berti and Vitali "Le carte di corte. I tarocchi" 1987 p.107-108, and discussed on Ltarot forum - where Vitalli translates it somewhat differently to mine above, corrections welcomed.) *Supposta solamente al Barattino 'beneath alone the Baratinno' ', Barattino= bagattino, the smallest sum, smooth talker, windbag. Supposta - I am reading as to set under, a disciple or follower as in the French `un suppost du divell' - a limb (that is, a follower) of the devil. Her wicked nature is also alluded to in that she is 'stripped of the good, of values to love', an allusion to the concept of a privation of substance (emptiness) being made comparitive to evil being a privation of good. Also perhaps we may see an allusion to her and Matto's `nothingness' (Nulla) to her as being the empty space of heaven's face in which the `things' (thus having positive existence and value) of heaven exist. More prosaically in the context of the game perhaps it was just meant to refer to her having lost a lot at gambling, the other ladies taking her for all she gambled! Kwaw __________________ "I am a diviner, but a poor one." Last edited by kwaw; 16-12-2007 at 07:29. |
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