Pluto Going Retrograde: Effects?

[prudence]

Originally Posted by balenciaga

Wouldn't this then mean that you might analyze your relationships with others - 7th house of partners, and pluto retro causing one to become suspicious of others' motives. I have read what Dave posted about pluto and society/exterior, but I have also read that Pluto retro is a trip into the interior self - internal purging of all that does not work. Mix that with 7th house here and if I was your partner I would watch for flying axes!

Thanks for this, Balenciaga.....and thanks Dadsnook for helping Balenciaga, which in turn helped me as well.

None of it sounds like a whole lot of fun, but it does sound familiar in that I have been growing very suspicious of the motives of some people in my life. I am struggling with how to relate to those people and how to establish certain (extremely important to me) boundaries. I do feel like if things go on with me saying nothing that I will eventually blow up and say it in a harsh way, which I seriously would like to avoid. Thankfully though, this is not about my spouse! Just friends who have no clue about certain boundaries, and it really is up to me to establish them, since they do not know they are trodding in such territory.

ETA: but on the other hand, is this energy making me a bit too nitpicky as far as my expectations are concerned? I do feel like I am noticing every little thing that certain people do and feel anger about those little things....yes, and a bit of obsessing is happening when I sit and ruminate on what a friend did or said that I took offense to....hmmm, I want to pick my battles correctly and not go for each and every one that seems to appear.

[balenciaga]

Originally Posted by dadsnook2000

Total change leading to a difference in who/how we relate to others is the theme. Scary, isn't it?

Thank you, Dave, and yes, it is indeed scary, albeit necessary at times.

[balenciaga]

Originally Posted by prudence

is this energy making me a bit too nitpicky

Prudence, could be, but this also sounds moon-related Also, there are at least three planets in Aries; by Sunday, 4/6, there will be four. Aries can make us hot-headed, quick on the draw. You might want to consider Aries and how it affects your placements.

[prudence]

Originally Posted by balenciaga

Prudence, could be, but this also sounds moon-related Also, there are at least three planets in Aries; by Sunday, 4/6, there will be four. Aries can make us hot-headed, quick on the draw. You might want to consider Aries and how it affects your placements.

yeah, that sounds about right...my natal Mars is in the first house, in Aries, so I would expect it to affect me on some level. Although all I have been feeling for the last few days is a great burst of optimism.

Thanks for replying to my posts, Balenciaga, it feels good to know that I am not actually invisible

[Sophie]

I have just realised that Pluto Retrograde is going through my 8th house, and come June, it will be squaring exactly my natal Saturn (Pisces 29° 56') and later will come within 4 degrees of my natal Chiron.


Oh joy. Do I order the funeral already? Is there ANYTHING positive to say about this transit?!

[Sophie]

Originally Posted by Fudugazi

I have just realised that Pluto Retrograde is going through my 8th house, and come June, it will be squaring exactly my natal Saturn (Pisces 29° 56') and later will come within 4 degrees of my natal Chiron.


Oh joy. Do I order the funeral already? Is there ANYTHING positive to say about this transit?!

Anybody wants to comment, please? How can I best make use of this difficult transit? It's been going on for a while and due to go on until mid-late 2009, I would appreciate some help. Some websites mention death of father or total collapse of life structure, and that really freaked me out.

[prudence]

Originally Posted by Fudugazi

Anybody wants to comment, please? How can I best make use of this difficult transit? It's been going on for a while and due to go on until mid-late 2009, I would appreciate some help. Some websites mention death of father or total collapse of life structure, and that really freaked me out.

(((Fudu))) If I had the knowledge I'd gladly share it with you. Other than that, all I can say is don't worry. (easier said than done)

[Sophie]

Thanks, pru! I'm still hoping someone will answer, because I am really worried. Last time some crappy transit happened in my life, some not very great things happened. But I also know that studying astrology is supposed to be empowering, so I hope to be empowered and give myself a chance to learn and act in a positive, life-affirming way, avoiding the worst of the transit by using whatever opportunities it does offer.

For reminder: it is Pluto transitting my 8th house, squaring my natal Saturn and coming close to squaring my natal Chiron. My natal Saturn is involved in a Grand Trine in Water, btw.


This is supposed to be a learning forum, but it's difficult to learn when one's questions aren't answered. Perhaps the question has complex ramifications I can't see, or perhaps there aren't enough people who know a lot about astrology on AT. I feel very intimidated on astrology forums, so I really don't know where to go in order to learn and interact with others.

[balenciaga]

Fudugazi,
I only dabble in astrology out of interest, but I did take the liberty to look some basics up that you mentioned:
Pluto transiting 8th H: very psychic, extra-sensory, the metaphysical
Pluto sq natal saturn: you are your own worst enemy - you think you do not have the talent (and here is where I would add in the psychic ability - you work against it, doubt it). You feel the universe is working against you, but you are projecting your own inner doubt. have faith in yourself. You are the one responsible for holding yourself back. The restrictions you feel that are coming from the universe are of your own making.
You might want to check www.astrologyweekly.com for more info.

[Sophie]

Originally Posted by balenciaga

Fudugazi,
I only dabble in astrology out of interest, but I did take the liberty to look some basics up that you mentioned:
Pluto transiting 8th H: very psychic, extra-sensory, the metaphysical
Pluto sq natal saturn: you are your own worst enemy - you think you do not have the talent (and here is where I would add in the psychic ability - you work against it, doubt it). You feel the universe is working against you, but you are projecting your own inner doubt. have faith in yourself. You are the one responsible for holding yourself back. The restrictions you feel that are coming from the universe are of your own making.
You might want to check www.astrologyweekly.com for more info.

Thanks, Balenciaga! Funny, but in the past year or so, my psychic sense has shot up - it was always fairly well developed, but now it's clamouring for attention. I don't tend to doubt an experience as it happens, or shortly after - but then later, the old worry-machine starts turning and churning out doubts. Also, I don't regularly practice as much as I ought, and I know that Saturn is also about developing regular habits, a structured practice.