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Sorry my opening wasn't crystal clear, though I did make the necessary point later on. I think the helper is indeed Saturn but Hellenistic authors took the third Trigon Lord as having an influence throughout life, though subordinate to the ruler of sect and then the successor (out of sect ruler). So even at the beginning of life, that third Trigon Lord needs to be incorporated into analysis.

During the medieval period things changed and life was divided into three with the third Lord taking the final third and having no input to the first two parts, those being ruled by the Trigon Lord of sect (first part) and the out o sect Trigon Lord (second part).
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