suicide is a 63 experience

rwcarter said:

I'm trying to understand your methodology, so that's where my questions come from.

For Florence Lawrence, you used the first letter of the first name and the first letter of the last name. But for Frank Novinec you used the first letter of the first name and the last letter of the last name. Why the different method than was used for Florence?

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To arrive at 63?

As I said, I went away and played with numbers for a while, and you can get 41 or 22 or 79 too, if you are selective about your maths.

My point is that the 63s the OP is getting are completely genuine. You can get 63s if you go looking for them. If you go looking for other numbers, you can get them too.

I think the Nine Swords, which the OP sees as a suicide card, is the sixty-third in the deck. Actually, it isn't. Different decks have the Minor suits occurring in different orders, and there is no rule about it. Two of the decks I've reviewed here - and there aren't that many of them - even have the Minors arranged in groups of four of each number, not in suits.

So to get the 63-suicide thing happening you have to:

1) choose carefully what deck you tie your system to and ignore all others, and
2) massage the numbers carefully.

As an intellectual exercise, I give full marks and kudos to the OP!

example #17

Robert Enke

born: August 24th, 1977
died: November 10th, 2009

8 + 24 +2+0+0+9 = 43 = his personal year

43 year + 10 (October) = 53 = his personal month

53 month + 10 (10th of the month) = 63 = his personal day = suicide



[Numerologically his personal month begins on the 24th of each month, so October (instead of November) is added here.]

example #18

Louis Lingg

born: September 9th, 1864
died: November 10th, 1887

9 + 9 +1+8+8+7 = 42 = his personal year

42 year + 11 (November) = 53 = his personal month

53 month + 10 (10th of the month) = 63 = his personal day = suicide

example #19

Using the number/letter grid:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
A B C D E F G H I
J K L M N O P Q R
S T U V W X Y Z


Friedrich List
6 3

primary challenge = FL = 63 = suicide




Georg Friedrich List
6 3

salvation/undoing number = FL = 63 = suicide

example #20

Kazuyoshi Miura

born: July 27th, 1947
died: October 10th, 2008

7 + 27 +2+0+0+8 = 44 = his personal year

44 year + 9 (September) = 53 = his personal month

53 + 10 (10th of the month) = 63 = his personal day = suicide



[Numerologically, his personal begins on the 27th of each month, so September (instead of October) is added here.]

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rwcarter said:

I'm trying to understand your methodology, so that's where my questions come from.

And you still haven't explained where the connection between the number 63 and suicide comes from.

Rodney

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I apologize that I'm so late in responding to your question. I edited my "first post." Hopefully this helps:

[For context, is should be noted that this thread was originally part of another thread where it was postulated that The Fool is the card for suicide because The Fool looks like he's going to go off of the cliff. While that's a novel theory, it's not because The Fool is suicidal, it's because The Fool is foolish and needs to look before he leaps. The Nine of Swords can be a card of desperation, and desperate people tend to do desperate things (including suicide). In that thread I was explaining that the tarot card for suicides is actually the Nine of Swords. Numerologically 63 corresponds to the Nine of Swords. I was trying to explain how you could actually see that suicide is a 63 (Nine of Swords) experience.]



You first have to know how to do the math.

Once you do, you can look at anyone historically who committed suicide, and calculate that their suicide occurred during their 63 year, month, day or hour; or that 63 was one of their big numbers.

The correspondences between the first 78 numbers and the 78 tarot cards can be found in the book Numerology and the Divine Triangle by Faith Javane and Dusty Bunker.

number/card correspondences:

1 = Magician
2 = High Priestess
3 = Empress
4 = Emperor
5 = Hierophant
6 = Lovers
7 = Chariot
8 = Strength
9 = Hermit
10 = Wheel of Fortune
11 = Justice
12 = Hanged Man
13 = Death
14 = Temperance
15 = Devil
16 = Tower
17 = Star
18 = Moon
19 = Sun
20= Judgement
21 = World
22 = Fool
23 = King of Wands
24 = Queen of Wands
25 = Knight of Wands
26 = Page of Wands
27 = Ace of Wands
28 = Two of Wands
29 = Three of Wands
30 = Four of Wands
31 = Five of Wands
32 = Six of Wands
33 = Seven of Wands
34 = Eight of Wands
35 = Nine of Wands
36 = Ten of Wands
37 = King of Cups
38 = Queen of Cups
39 = Knight of Cups
40 = Page of Cups
41 = Ace of Cups
42 = Two of Cups
43 = Three of Cups
44 = Four of Cups
45 = Five of Cups
46 = Six of Cups
47 = Seven of Cups
48 = Eight of Cups
49 = Nine of Cups
50 = Ten of Cups
51 = King of Swords
52 = Queen of Swords
53 = Knight of Swords
54 = Page of Swords
55 = Ace of Swords
56 = Two of Swords
57 = Three of Swords
58 = Four of Swords
59 = Five of Swords
60 = Six of Swords
61 = Seven of Swords
62 = Eight of Swords
63 = Nine of Swords
64 = Ten of Swords
65 = King of Pentacles
66 = Queen of Pentacles
67 = Knight of Pentacles
68 = Page of Pentacles
69 = Ace of Pentacles
70 = Two of Pentacles
71 = Three of Pentacles
72 = Four of Pentacles
73 = Five of Pentacles
74 = Six of Pentacles
75 = Seven of Pentacles
76 = Eight of Pentacles
77 = Nine of Pentacles
78 = Ten of Pentacles


Rather than merely assert that suicide is a 63 (Nine of Swords) experience, I can back it up with data.

example #21

Using the number/letter grid:

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
A B C D E F G H I
J K L M N O P Q R
S T U V W X Y Z

Benjamin Haydon

path of destiny = sum of all the letters in the name = 63 = suicide

B = 2
e = 5
n = 5
j = 1
a = 1
m = 4
i = 9
n = 5
H = 8
a = 1
y = 7
d = 4
o = 6
+ n = 5
--------
63

example #22

John Heddle

born: September 15th, 1943
died: December 19th, 1989

9 + 15 + 1+9+8+9 = 51 = his personal year

51 year + 12 (December) = 63 = his personal month = suicide

example #23

Heinrich Himmler

born: October 7th, 1900
died: May 23rd, 1945

10 + 7 +1+9+4+4 = 35 = his personal year

35 year + 5 (May) = 40 = his personal month

40 + 23 (23rd of the month) = 63 = his personal day = suicide



[Numerologically his personal year begins on October 7th of each year, so 1944 (instead of 1945) is added here.]

example #24

Using the number/letter grid:

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
A B C D E F G H I
J K L M N O P Q R
S T U V W X Y Z

Phyllis Hyman

path of destiny = the sum of all the letters of the name = 63 = suicide

P = 7
h = 8
y = 7
l = 3
l = 3
i = 9
s = 1
H = 8
y = 7
m = 4
a = 1
+ n = 5
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63