Hi all,
The Grand Cross has fascinated me for a long time now. I don't know anyone with this in their chart yet, but I do know a forum-er with the GC if you include the Ascendant. I'd like everyone to share their ideas and will include her chart (or Himmler's) for study if we get responses.
According to Wikipedia:
In astrology, a Grand Cross is said to occur when four planets are all separated from each other by Square aspects (90 degrees apart). A Grand Cross can also be viewed as two oppositions (180 degrees apart) separated from each other by a square. In a Grand Cross, there is one planet in each astrological element (fire, earth, air and water) but all the planets are in signs of the same modality or quality. He was a phenomenal human being, although I am quite certain he was schizophrenic....not certified, just my opinion....brilliant, generous in the extreme, a ladies man all the way, but none could hold him. The alcohol didn't win until the end because he was a very strong personality.
1) Can the Grand Cross include the Ascendant, or is this strictly "planets only"?
On one hand, the Ascendant is simply a point in the sky, that if we include the Asc we should include the North Node, South Node, and everything else which makes for a complicated chart.
On the other hand the Asc is, in the view of traditional astrology, more important than the Sun itself. I'm too split on this issue.
What do you think?
2) What are traditional views of this configuration? Heroes? Villains? Heinrich Himmler has this in his chart.
Before you cry out villain! I've actually questioned his morality for a while in a history book years ago.
3) The Grand Cross is a pretty rare. Do you know anyone's charts with the GC? What was he or she (or you) like? We could study his or her chart.